Roost 'Er
Member
I acutally disagree completely with the whole Stud thing, i run 192 1.175" pics and woudlnt go any other way, on hard packed she hooks and hooks HARD, same with ice water, you name it with the hacksaw and these pics i got bite, now my dad had 96 in his zrt and in all conditions it still would spin the track, now he has 144 and its better but still doesnt hook up like mine, EVERYWHERE and ANYWHERE i hit it i hook up plain and simple and to be honest i wouldnt have it any other way!
daman
New member
one of my sleds had 144 in it and i pulled them all out,couldn't belive how
heavy all them damn things were!!!
heavy all them damn things were!!!
SRX7
New member
SRX is fast enough, just have to get a better rear skid and get it to hook.modsrx said:well its always fun to ride and to have a great fast trail sled
valin
Active member
192 studs is rediculous on any sled. First of all, trail studs don't hook. They do not penetrate the ice....they gouge it when they spin. More studs prevent the gouging process because there is not enough weight per stud. Think of it like a bed of nails theory. Lie on 1000 nails, and you don't feel a thing. Lie on 10 nails and you die. I have tried about every combination of studs over the years, and your sled will hook as good as any with 96 studs, spaced out, in a good pattern........ and it is alot less weight to turn, resulting in more hp to the track, more acceleration, and more top speed. It is different when it comes to chisels or ice pics, because they do actually penetrate the ice, and more are required for higher horsepower applications.
flying yami
New member
i understand what your saying but i used to have 96 studs in the same track, same sled, same suspension and it would spin. i installed 96 more and it helped dramatically. i know they take alot of hp to turn but that's ok. they are a ridiculous amount of weight if you were to way them all in a bag.
Concept Carbon
New member
i aslo find 96 to not even be close to anough i run 144 down the middle and it seems perfect. I dont really totally agree with the bed of nails theory, I may be wrong but IMO a track isnt completly flat and it spins, I think a rake would aply better, yes 2 studs woudl dig in more the 4 in a row but they also woudl bend over and not support the torque. As long as your studs dont line up with each other then there all working.
anyways this is way off topic he is looking for HP tips not track and suspention tips.
anyways this is way off topic he is looking for HP tips not track and suspention tips.
..SNAKEBIT..
VIP Member
Before I long tracked my sled I ran 168 picks, IMO scratch lines are what counts if the studs line up the track hits the ice and all the studs in that row do nothing, I also ran studs in the outside band as close to the rails as possiable.
I just used a ruler and marked the spots 36 scratch lines
3 each outer rib and 15 down the center 168 picks (120c - 48o)
7/8,1-1/8,1-3/8 4-3/4,7/8, 5,1/8,1/4,3/8,1/2,5/8,7/8 6-1/8,3/8,5/8,7/8, 7-1/8,3/8
measured from both outside edges (or start at 15 and subtrac)
repeats 4 times around a 121 (12 patterns)
works well puts more scratch lines by the slide
I just used a ruler and marked the spots 36 scratch lines
3 each outer rib and 15 down the center 168 picks (120c - 48o)
7/8,1-1/8,1-3/8 4-3/4,7/8, 5,1/8,1/4,3/8,1/2,5/8,7/8 6-1/8,3/8,5/8,7/8, 7-1/8,3/8
measured from both outside edges (or start at 15 and subtrac)
repeats 4 times around a 121 (12 patterns)
works well puts more scratch lines by the slide
valin
Active member
In order for 96 studs to work, you need a large amount of penetration. If you only get a small amount of penetration, then you will just simply gouge the ice out to your track height, and have no more penetration. I used to run 1.075's on a 0.725" track.
valin
Active member
By running a 1.25" track you are screwed for having alot of penetration, and will have to run more, unless you run massive tunnel protectors, but then the track will just rub on them and will kill your performance.
flying yami
New member
well i grinded the rough burrs out of the exhaust chamber smooth. i think it will help the flow. its all back together. i resealed everything. there is no more leaks. the original problem why my piston went is because the mag side crank seal was leakin like a siv. the engine should run like a champ again.
daman
New member
good at least you found the problem..