mopar1rules
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Danger Dog said:They have thick sheaves and you don't see too many of them that crack unlike the yamaha. As far as the plastic washers they don't need them as long as the weight bushings and everything is in good working order.QUOTE]
i've never seen a yamaha clutch crack. as for not needing the thrust washers, my boss' '03 rmk 800, had the weights were grooves right into the side of the clutches, cause there is no thrust washers to keep the weight from moving side to side, and cause there is a little piddly 1/4" id bushing, that wore out quickly.
ok TripleX, now i'm done.....lol![]()
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just commenting on why cats clutching wears out prematurelyshortstop20 said:No problems here.
And the Yami 600cc twins never took out primary's prematurely?![]()
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Yamidude59 said:I gotta Know! Why arctic cat? i feel like i'm sitting on top of a brick wall when i'm sitting on one, a really high tippy brick wall.
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have you ever sat on a new phazer. worse than any a/c ive sat on.
dont get me wrong i would never own one.
also as far as ss20 not being blue blooded, hes had an srx so have i great machines, but plain and simple they are made for lakes and groomed trails. if thats all i did i would still have mine. the hole reason the ss20 went with a polaris cause it can handle the rough and it also has good power. ive ridden it i know what it will do. but arctic cats are junk for sure
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Mopar obviously you know more then I do. Some of you guys are bluewashed. I am done!
Heat cracks clutches. If your sled is running proper rpm,s & the belt ain,t slipping you get cool clutches. cool clutches = long life. no mystery here!
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My point exactly Turk. Setup properly they all run fine. Some of them will wear out before others but they are not junk like some are saying.
Why do I have to bleed blue to ride a Yamaha? If I had to pledge myself to any brand it would be Yami but I'm not going to sit here and act like they're perfect and everything else is junk like some of you are. You sure make bold statements about my sled when you've never seen it in action. Just another example of your attitude towards anything that ain't blue.
My point exactly Turk. Setup properly they all run fine. Some of them will wear out before others but they are not junk like some are saying.
Yamidude59 said:shortstop, i don't think you have enough blue in your blood you got the bad@$$ R6, but you ride a polaris, you might as well throw in the towel now. because that thing is done this winter.
Why do I have to bleed blue to ride a Yamaha? If I had to pledge myself to any brand it would be Yami but I'm not going to sit here and act like they're perfect and everything else is junk like some of you are. You sure make bold statements about my sled when you've never seen it in action. Just another example of your attitude towards anything that ain't blue.
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Turk is right. Cat clutches don't crack because they are shitty, they crack due to heat just like all the others. Clutched properly, the sheaves will last as long as any other brand of clutch. You'll also get the benefit of the larger diameter in the bearcat secondary, which automatically gears the sled lower off the line. They're a nice addition for race applications. I will be running a bearcat secondary on my 1136 this year.
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shortstop20 said:^^^^^^^
My point exactly Turk. Setup properly they all run fine. Some of them will wear out before others but they are not junk like some are saying.
Why do I have to bleed blue to ride a Yamaha? If I had to pledge myself to any brand it would be Yami but I'm not going to sit here and act like they're perfect and everything else is junk like some of you are. You sure make bold statements about my sled when you've never seen it in action. Just another example of your attitude towards anything that ain't blue.
don't get me wrong man this is not personal, but almost everyone i know who rides polaris, has the engine apart each summer because they "blew up" now why do you think that is? owner is not properly taking care of them? or just bad engineering?
All my yami buddies never have problems. only when its time to re-ring at the 5-6000 mark.
I'm pure yamaha and don't mind some of the ski-doos.
patsxr700
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haha wanna know y they dont crack?? because they dont last long enough to crack lmao
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Yes sir i bleed blue doesn't mean i am dissing others sleds cause i'm not ....Got my first taste of what harmonic freqs do the clutch bushings in 88 on a ported exciter. twins, especially big bore twins, "vibrate" depending on the rpm they are running in (some more than others)...yes there are dampeners, however they generally wear out bushings faster than say a triple ......as far as cracking ???? like turk said OVERHOT and then coldshortstop20 said:^^^^^^^
My point exactly Turk. Setup properly they all run fine. Some of them will wear out before others but they are not junk like some are saying.
Why do I have to bleed blue to ride a Yamaha? If I had to pledge myself to any brand it would be Yami but I'm not going to sit here and act like they're perfect and everything else is junk like some of you are. You sure make bold statements about my sled when you've never seen it in action. Just another example of your attitude towards anything that ain't blue.
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Did you read my last post, I already said it's all in the setup, that goes for any sled.
They obviously don't know how to tune a sled or they're not taking care of them. Motors do not blow up for no reason. It doesn't matter who's name is on the motor. There's a reason Polaris was #1 in sled sales for many years. They are in 2nd place at the moment ahead of Yamaha I might add.
I'm not taking anything personally. I just don't like it when people spew BS. The simplest answer is usually the correct one and the simple answer is Polaris makes a fine sled(just like all the other manufacturer's), if they didn't they wouldn't be where they're at. Maybe they're not the sled for you and that's fine, but just because it's not the sled for you does not make them bad sleds. If you cannot realize that then you are ignorant.
Did you read my last post, I already said it's all in the setup, that goes for any sled.
Yamidude59 said:don't get me wrong man this is not personal, but almost everyone i know who rides polaris, has the engine apart each summer because they "blew up" now why do you think that is? owner is not properly taking care of them? or just bad engineering?
All my yami buddies never have problems. only when its time to re-ring at the 5-6000 mark.
I'm pure yamaha and don't mind some of the ski-doos.
They obviously don't know how to tune a sled or they're not taking care of them. Motors do not blow up for no reason. It doesn't matter who's name is on the motor. There's a reason Polaris was #1 in sled sales for many years. They are in 2nd place at the moment ahead of Yamaha I might add.
I'm not taking anything personally. I just don't like it when people spew BS. The simplest answer is usually the correct one and the simple answer is Polaris makes a fine sled(just like all the other manufacturer's), if they didn't they wouldn't be where they're at. Maybe they're not the sled for you and that's fine, but just because it's not the sled for you does not make them bad sleds. If you cannot realize that then you are ignorant.
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Polaris probably makes one of the best primary clutches out there(p-85 wide roller).
The Yammie primaries have done fine to 300+ hp tho.
The Yammie primaries have done fine to 300+ hp tho.
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i'm not talking about setup so to speak, i'm talking about manufactures compromise....i will tell you this ,just so you know i'm still within reality....in the wedge chassis days polaris could get away with 10hp less and run away from many on top end because of there drive line effeciency ie cluching .....example the other way wildcat 650 is an exttreme example of vibs killing bushings (wearing out clutches ) stock.....big bore twins shake!shortstop20 said:^^^^^^^^^^
Did you read my last post, I already said it's all in the setup, that goes for any sled.
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old poo/yam/cat twins utterly destroyed weight/roller bushings in 1000 miles from harmonics.
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I see what you mean. I agree the twins do shake, just the nature of the beast.


jmp2204 said:i'm not talking about setup so to speak, i'm talking about manufactures compromise....i will tell you this ,just so you know i'm still within reality....in the wedge chassis days polaris could get away with 10hp less and run away from many on top end because of there drive line effeciency ie cluching .....example the other way wildcat 650 is an exttreme example of vibs killing bushings (wearing out clutches ) stock.....big bore twins shake!
I see what you mean. I agree the twins do shake, just the nature of the beast.
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yeahh you ever seen a zr 900 shake.. lol
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Yeah they are. Those babies shake like mad.
Yeah they are. Those babies shake like mad.
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We had a cat clutch that was out of spec from factory, one of the towers was a couple thou too high, it was machined, fixed and worked great.
About 15000 MILES on cat clutches here and have never had a problem.
About 15000 MILES on cat clutches here and have never had a problem.
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oo yeah i forgot about the Fusions lol yeahh nvm about the zr 900 lol