Biting the bullet, buying first sled
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SWEDE
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You'll have a blast with it, I suggest that you check out the info on the technical pages.There is alot of good stuff and it'll help you learn the sled and there is definetely some good clutching and jetting combos on there.
yeah the sled seems a bit sluggish, but i assume just because it hasnt been tuned up for the season yet. its currently snowing in binghamton, but i know it wont be enough to ride around the yard to get a good feel for it. Took it for a quick rip in the grass and the sled seems a big sluggish. Definitely plan on replacing the plugs, cleaning the carbs, greasing it up and such. I'm somewhat mechanically inclined (wrenched my own MX bikes) but cleaning the carbs worries me a bit. is there anything i should be worried about(IE is it just take them apart clean em up and throw them back on or do i have to worry about messing up the syncing of them?) the reason i want to clean them is because i've ridden some of the 600 twins and they seemed faster then this so i know somethings up
SWEDE
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You should'nt have to sync them,scroll down to the tech faq section and read the carb cleaning post from mr. viper, it even has pictures.Some of the sluggish feel may be because its not very cold yet or you could have some other issue.When you clean the carbs see what main jets are in there, you want 142.5 main jets straight accrossed and lower the needles a 1/2 position.These changes will make it a bit snappier and increase fuel mileage.Also things are'nt always as they seem with the feel of a sled.The triples have a very smooth powerband and less of a hit like some twins.You might be surprised when you line up with some friends riding.
Congratulations on your sx 700 purchase. I currently own one as well and have had nothing but good luck with it. For myself, a few facts for you is this sled is very sensative to weight. It is sensative to 10lbs difference on rider weight. Second, if it is stock, keep it that way. I spent big coin on all the power gadgets and didn't really gain much for the money i spent. The more you add, the less reliable it is. "My opinion only". Run it for a season and then choose your mods if you want. Totallyamaha is the "bible" and the only website that has the best and accurate info. All of these guy's who pass out information do it for the love of the sport and don't B.S. I have gotten a lot of great advice and info and for the sx models,"Turk" without singling anyone out is the professor. He tuned my sx700 from a turd to a rocket. Good luck this winter and keep the rubber side down. Ride smart and sobber.
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horkn
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Dmm698 said:
You might want to buy a set of pipes then, or do as many mods as you can. A well set up clutch and carbs will do a lot to get more speed with no recourse as far as reliability. Those VES 600 polaris sleds are VERY fast for a 600.
I have never had a yamaha with that motor beat my basically stock 2000 xc600sp VES. Matter of fact no single piped yamaha 600/700 has been able to get the better of my 600. A friend of mine bought an 01 700 SX-R thinking he would be able to take the xc down, and he was not happy when he couldn't.
The edge chassis does rob more HP than my Gen2 chassis though, so you might have a better shot.
Let us know how that goes.
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JohnnyQuest
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A 600 Polaris is NO problem for a properly set up 700 triple yamaha. If you have your jetting, clutching, and traction set up well you will be VERY happy with the results. You sure as hell don't need pipes to beat a VES 600 Polaris! 
horkn
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JohnnyQuest said:A 600 Polaris is NO problem for a properly set up 700 triple yamaha. If you have your jetting, clutching, and traction set up well you will be VERY happy with the results. You sure as hell don't need pipes to beat a VES 600 Polaris!
My experience does not come to the same conclusion, unless you compare a very well set up (clutched and jetted) sled to one that can't get traction and is either too richly jetted and not clutched to its full potential.
I nearly bought a 2000 700 SXR instead of my xc600sp back in the spring of 99. I have not yet been let down by making the decision I made. The top 3 choices I had were the 2000 xc600sp, the 00 doo mxz600 adrenaline, and the 00 sx r700.
Had I known that you could put reverse on a SRX, I would have bought that instead, but other than that, I have had no remorse.
I know this is a yamaha site, but you have to keep it real.
JohnnyQuest
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I am not saying that the 600 Polaris is better or worse than any other model for that matter. What I am saying is that if you have a 700 triple jetted down and clutched poperly and getting the same traction as the 600 it will and DOES beat it......time and time again. Clutching and jetting is not set up "Very Well" as you stated above, it's simply efficient! "Very Well" set up would be things such as pipes, head mods, reeds, boost bottle, etc......
I am keeping it not only real, but REALISTIC.
JohnnyQuest
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Dmm698, You will be very pleased with your purchase. Follow some of the set up tips on the Tech pages for jetting and clutching.
Welcome to the site!
Welcome to the site!
horkn
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Johnny,
Getting a sled set up right refers to having the jetting and clutching adjusted properly. It also refers to having the suspension settings to your liking. We all know the factories leave a lot on the table to cater to the needs of the variety of people buying that machine. I do not consider a clutched or jetted sled to be modified, nor should anyone else.
I am not bashing, please do not interpret what I am saying as a bash.
The sx700r is a great sled, but the original poster should realize that the polaris 600 his friend owns is a very fast machine and that despite it's 100cc or so disadvantage, he should not assume the 700cc machine is faster.
The truth in this case will out when or if he decides to "race" his buddy's 600.
In every case I have dealt with, the truth is that the yamaha 700 that is in the sxr does not make the power to outrun a VES 600 polaris, assuming it is not like a 600 touring or similar long tracked heavier sled.
Getting a sled set up right refers to having the jetting and clutching adjusted properly. It also refers to having the suspension settings to your liking. We all know the factories leave a lot on the table to cater to the needs of the variety of people buying that machine. I do not consider a clutched or jetted sled to be modified, nor should anyone else.
I am not bashing, please do not interpret what I am saying as a bash.
The sx700r is a great sled, but the original poster should realize that the polaris 600 his friend owns is a very fast machine and that despite it's 100cc or so disadvantage, he should not assume the 700cc machine is faster.
The truth in this case will out when or if he decides to "race" his buddy's 600.
In every case I have dealt with, the truth is that the yamaha 700 that is in the sxr does not make the power to outrun a VES 600 polaris, assuming it is not like a 600 touring or similar long tracked heavier sled.
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JohnnyQuest
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Your right, What would I know!?
My two cents in this discussion. My brother has a 600 edge. My wife rides a 700 mountain max. His is box stock other than the studs. Her's is dialed in pretty well. Just the standard single pipe mods. On the river the difference in these two came down to traction. If we planted the rear of the 700 so it got good traction it would jump in front and stay there. If we didn't the 600 jumped in front and stayed there.
horkn
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JohnnyQuest said:
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How could you see what is on my right?
You must have meant "You're right".
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JohnnyQuest
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And that's a Mountain Max......Thank you for proving my point Ryan!
horkn
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JohnnyQuest said:
That didn't prove you point at all.
If anything, that proved my point that the 600 VES is a fast sled for a 600.
JohnnyQuest
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Sorry for the punctuation error...... I didn't realize that my old English teacher was a TY member. You have the mentality of a 5year old to make a comment like that. 
JohnnyQuest
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horkn said:
You'RE right, that didn't prove YOU point at all!
horkn
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Whatever....
So you caught me accidentally leaving an "r" off of the end of a word.
That is a typo, not an incorrect usage of a word. I will never be the best typist, but I sure know how to use my words.
That said, your 5 yr old mentality has gotten the best of you. The fact of the matter is that he should not assume his sled will be faster than his friends sled.
How many 600 VES sleds have you raced with your SXR's? Also, I would expect that your triple piped sxr would beat a stock piped xc600 VES. But that is comparing apples to oranges. I think if you dug up the American Snowmobiler shootouts from Old Forge, or similar shootouts that you would see my point, and not get wrapped up in juvenile logic.
So you caught me accidentally leaving an "r" off of the end of a word.
That is a typo, not an incorrect usage of a word. I will never be the best typist, but I sure know how to use my words.
That said, your 5 yr old mentality has gotten the best of you. The fact of the matter is that he should not assume his sled will be faster than his friends sled.
How many 600 VES sleds have you raced with your SXR's? Also, I would expect that your triple piped sxr would beat a stock piped xc600 VES. But that is comparing apples to oranges. I think if you dug up the American Snowmobiler shootouts from Old Forge, or similar shootouts that you would see my point, and not get wrapped up in juvenile logic.