ok i understand wat you are saying and it makes sence i could probly trade a freind of mine my helix for a stock one but the thing that im hanging up on it my primary spring is worn flat on both ends a little bit (im not sure if this is normal or if it need to be replaced) and all the weights on the primary are worn so ide like to replace them too, so im trying to weight it out if i have to by springs and weights and maybe if i have to pick up a helix i know it wont be less than 200( are local yamaha dealer is a criminal ) and im still runnging a stock clutch setup so this is why i sugested could i make something work with an aftermarket primary and the my aftermarket helix that i have now and get better perphormance out of my sled because if i gotta start putting a bunch of new parts in the primary i could easly burn up that 300$ and im dealing with a clutch that has 9000km on it apose to 0km , were as if i can get a kick *ss setup out of a new clutch i mise well make use of the offer made and the parts i have, ide also like to make my buddies with 700sx and a 700vmax cringle lol, and i mean no disrespect to anyone that gave me advice and help as it is greatly apretiated, so i donno wat to do as i am very new to this lol (maybe a month lol) ide love to hear wat you guys would do and hear your opinions on it and thanks again