Oh -- and idling and cruising around the sled never popped over 130 degrees Farenheit....
Where to get power????
Can you by any chance provide photos of how/where you spliced into the blue brake wire to power the unit???? Thanks much!!!!
jdp1under said:
Can you by any chance provide photos of how/where you spliced into the blue brake wire to power the unit???? Thanks much!!!!
I DIDNT TAKE ANY PICS OF THE POWER BUT ITS RIGHT UNDER THE BAR PAD COMING FROM THE BREAK LEVER FOR THE TAIL LIGHTS. IS BLUE AND HAS CONSTANT 12V.
BY THE WAY I RAN THE SLED UP NORTH LAST WEEK AND IN 20f AIR AND SOME LOOSE SNOW ON THE TRAILS SHE RAN AT 125-130F AND A DAY LATER WITH REALLY HARD PACKED GROOMED TRAILS IT WENT UP TO 135F WHAT PIECE OF MIND BEING ABLE TO LOOK DOWN AT ANY TIME AND SEE THE TEMP. ALSO WHEN YOU PULL OVER AND SHUT THE MACHINE OFF I CYCLES TO THE CLOCK WICH IS RATHER CONVIENT. THANKS
BY THE WAY I RAN THE SLED UP NORTH LAST WEEK AND IN 20f AIR AND SOME LOOSE SNOW ON THE TRAILS SHE RAN AT 125-130F AND A DAY LATER WITH REALLY HARD PACKED GROOMED TRAILS IT WENT UP TO 135F WHAT PIECE OF MIND BEING ABLE TO LOOK DOWN AT ANY TIME AND SEE THE TEMP. ALSO WHEN YOU PULL OVER AND SHUT THE MACHINE OFF I CYCLES TO THE CLOCK WICH IS RATHER CONVIENT. THANKS
Thanks alot for the info.! As you recall, coming out of the Daytona gauge are two wires -- the positve wire, and the negative wire with the half circle end. Would I ground the negative then and then splice into the blue brake wire and connect the positive Daytone wire to the brake wire?
Thanks for all of your help.
MJB
Thanks for all of your help.
MJB
The Gauge is installed!!!!!!
I just wanted to update this......
I followed the instructions through this thread and they worked great and were very helpful.
I had earlier installed a Peak Performance head from MPI and then wanted this gauge also installed. When I installed the head I tapped into the water manifold that is attached and the gauge is constantly reading the temp of the coolant passing through, so I think the gauge may lag a few seconds behind the actual engine temps.
The unit has a chargeable internal battery so one needs to locate a power source to recharge the internal battery and to run the back light on the display, the gauge will work for a time without doing this, but the battery will slowly discharge.
Obviously if your sled has electric start and a battery that is easiest to hook into -- but mine does not have a battery, so I had to look elsewhere -- but I was able to splice into the brake wire (constant 12 volt) and use that (Thank you TY for that tip!!!).....
So because of the internal battery, the gauge is always on (uses its own battery for power when machine is off). The unit is funny in that it wants to switch to the clock function when the machine is off, displaying the time instead of the temps.
The unit then draws the 12 volt power when the machine gets fired up. You can tell when it is being fed juice because the display then switches to temps. There is also a backlight supposedly that works when it gets a powersource, but I have only ridden during the day and I can't tell if the backlight is on. Although I have tried to look, and I can't tell if that works. JDP: Is your working??????
When running, the temps get displayed and constantly change -- it is neat to see how the collant gets cycled through the machine. At first warm up, it will heat up to 117 degrees -- maybe up to 120-ish. Then as you ride, the machine wants to stay between 124 and 130-ish. That assumes you are moving and excellent snow conditions exist. If you ride slow -- the machine warms up more. Go fast and temps cool down as more spray goes up.
In poor snow or hardpack or putting around the yard, the machine will run alot hotter. In the yard (hardpack and slow driving with 1 year old son on my lap for 20 mins. yesterday -- and yes, he LOVES the Yamaha!!!!) the machine crept up to 190-ish and i shut her down because it would've overheated. That is the beauty of the gauge -- you see when trouble is creaping up and can react.
On a hardpack trail on saturday (please note I have 2" paddle track) I was running temps of 175-185 degrees before I employed the scratchers. My machine has ski scratchers and skid mounted scratchers. With just ski scratchers, I ran temps of 150-ish to high 160's. With skid mounted scratchers, I was right back down into the 130's for temps -- 30+ degrees cooler!!!.... So my $.02 is that ski scratchers do not work sufficient on my Mountain Viper -- the traditional skid mounted scratchers are way better and keep temps where they should be.
These temp gauges are fantastic and should be included standard on every stock machine. I'm also going to put one on my 4 stroke Attak. I strongly recommend this to everyone.
I just wanted to update this......
I followed the instructions through this thread and they worked great and were very helpful.
I had earlier installed a Peak Performance head from MPI and then wanted this gauge also installed. When I installed the head I tapped into the water manifold that is attached and the gauge is constantly reading the temp of the coolant passing through, so I think the gauge may lag a few seconds behind the actual engine temps.
The unit has a chargeable internal battery so one needs to locate a power source to recharge the internal battery and to run the back light on the display, the gauge will work for a time without doing this, but the battery will slowly discharge.
Obviously if your sled has electric start and a battery that is easiest to hook into -- but mine does not have a battery, so I had to look elsewhere -- but I was able to splice into the brake wire (constant 12 volt) and use that (Thank you TY for that tip!!!).....
So because of the internal battery, the gauge is always on (uses its own battery for power when machine is off). The unit is funny in that it wants to switch to the clock function when the machine is off, displaying the time instead of the temps.
The unit then draws the 12 volt power when the machine gets fired up. You can tell when it is being fed juice because the display then switches to temps. There is also a backlight supposedly that works when it gets a powersource, but I have only ridden during the day and I can't tell if the backlight is on. Although I have tried to look, and I can't tell if that works. JDP: Is your working??????
When running, the temps get displayed and constantly change -- it is neat to see how the collant gets cycled through the machine. At first warm up, it will heat up to 117 degrees -- maybe up to 120-ish. Then as you ride, the machine wants to stay between 124 and 130-ish. That assumes you are moving and excellent snow conditions exist. If you ride slow -- the machine warms up more. Go fast and temps cool down as more spray goes up.
In poor snow or hardpack or putting around the yard, the machine will run alot hotter. In the yard (hardpack and slow driving with 1 year old son on my lap for 20 mins. yesterday -- and yes, he LOVES the Yamaha!!!!) the machine crept up to 190-ish and i shut her down because it would've overheated. That is the beauty of the gauge -- you see when trouble is creaping up and can react.
On a hardpack trail on saturday (please note I have 2" paddle track) I was running temps of 175-185 degrees before I employed the scratchers. My machine has ski scratchers and skid mounted scratchers. With just ski scratchers, I ran temps of 150-ish to high 160's. With skid mounted scratchers, I was right back down into the 130's for temps -- 30+ degrees cooler!!!.... So my $.02 is that ski scratchers do not work sufficient on my Mountain Viper -- the traditional skid mounted scratchers are way better and keep temps where they should be.
These temp gauges are fantastic and should be included standard on every stock machine. I'm also going to put one on my 4 stroke Attak. I strongly recommend this to everyone.
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