Adreneline Junkie said:
my father has had the same issue with his 06 Attak since he bought it. he put on the marginal wheels which did help with the wear up front but that thing tosses track clips like Ive never seen. The cheap a$$ idler wheels yamaha puts on there are a joke also. they warranteed close to a dozen wheels on that thing with the "updated" wheels and they still delaminate. also there is no replacing the bearings and you have to machine mounts to put on wheels with replaceable bearings!! last ride out he had an idler snap off the rail and broke a 3 inch piece of the rail off! On the 4stroke side most came to the conclusion that it is the harsh attack angle of the monoshock up front that causes the flaming hot hyfax. as soon as you put new on they melt right back to 1/16" left. going to a fully clipped track is a $500 fix. it's a joke if you ask me. you are not the only one do a search on the 4 smoke side.
Adreneline Junkie
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Yes I agree BBlueSRX. Sounds like depending on sled model, the problem exists in different levels of severity.
In the case of the '06 Apex and '07 Apex the skid design is completely different and yet they both have the same issue with excessive hyfax wear so I don't buy into the "attack angle" of the mono shock being the reason. The bottom line on the Apex's anyway is that there is virtually no weight on the wheels when new hyfax is installed. Most of the weight is on the hyfax and they melt down immediately , powder or no powder. Larger wheels will remedy this.
I also agree with you that the wheels are junk. The fact that you can't replace the bearings alone is reason enough to switch. Some manufacturers are getting very creative in figuring out ways to increase profits in parts sales. Whether or not this is done intentionally is pure speculation but I know that Yamaha is making a lot of money on hyfax sales and idler wheels. They are actually losing out though b/c most guys are simply going after-market on the wheels at least and Yamaha is losing the sale and harming their reputation to boot.
I really like my Yamaha in a lot of respects but they definitely dropped the ball in a few areas. Areas that should have been addressed before the final design was released for production.
In the case of the '06 Apex and '07 Apex the skid design is completely different and yet they both have the same issue with excessive hyfax wear so I don't buy into the "attack angle" of the mono shock being the reason. The bottom line on the Apex's anyway is that there is virtually no weight on the wheels when new hyfax is installed. Most of the weight is on the hyfax and they melt down immediately , powder or no powder. Larger wheels will remedy this.
I also agree with you that the wheels are junk. The fact that you can't replace the bearings alone is reason enough to switch. Some manufacturers are getting very creative in figuring out ways to increase profits in parts sales. Whether or not this is done intentionally is pure speculation but I know that Yamaha is making a lot of money on hyfax sales and idler wheels. They are actually losing out though b/c most guys are simply going after-market on the wheels at least and Yamaha is losing the sale and harming their reputation to boot.
I really like my Yamaha in a lot of respects but they definitely dropped the ball in a few areas. Areas that should have been addressed before the final design was released for production.
BlueIronRanger
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Everyone complained the Old pro-action ate slides like crazy. I changed mine when I installed the ripsaw at 2000 miles and have 4000 miles on the sled now. I think people just change them too soon. Mine wore like crazy for the first 100-200 miles, just about to the wear line, and haven't worn since.
mightyroo12
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06 vector ..8000 miles, last 4000 miles on the slides I still have on now. Ran so many miles over ice packed trails this year the sled was overheating many,many times, but the slides keep going. I agree with Blue, leave them on until they are at the line, you will be surprised how long they will go. I did put on aftermarket idlers a couple weeks ago, $22/wheel with replaceable bearings, slight larger than stock but smaller than Polaris wheels.
mightyroo12 said:
Agreed, I just haven't had the wear issues some have. Don't know what I'm doing right.
SWEDE
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When I put the m-10 in my hyfax wear problem went away and the ripsaw track was better than the stock track also.
berge75
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slide wear issue fix
Bolt on some two bolt mounts,and these larger wheels and you may not ever have to change slides again. The single bolt mounts just bend under pressure and end up cracking the rails.The wheels are out of a parts unlimited cat. and are 5.325 in dia. I had these on for over a year now with 5000 mi and as you can see the slides are not wearing very much. I can ride down icey roads for miles and not burn slides.
Bolt on some two bolt mounts,and these larger wheels and you may not ever have to change slides again. The single bolt mounts just bend under pressure and end up cracking the rails.The wheels are out of a parts unlimited cat. and are 5.325 in dia. I had these on for over a year now with 5000 mi and as you can see the slides are not wearing very much. I can ride down icey roads for miles and not burn slides.
