spike
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I have an interesting problem with one of my buddies sleds and am looking for some help. He has a 2001 600 Deluxe with about 2500 miles on it, bone stock. Last year riding his rpm's were pulling like 9400 on this thing. All the components are stock and he has the 8DN belt. Any ideas what is going on? His mileage started suffering late last year as well and has a backfire on a regular basis when he shuts it off. The two of these together makes me think there is some type of problem with the clutching and not the tach. Any ideas?
well, might have bad fuel or a plugged pilots but the over rev is very common on stock 600 triple...the only way to bring that back to peak is to clutch it...the 8abs work great in that sled.
yamaholic22
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Yea, the 600 and 700, but especially the 600, have pretty nasty over revs in stock form, mainly because the production engines were stronger than the ones yamaha used to set the specs up for, and of course the specs were never updated over the years to anything worthwhile. Great thing is some cheap clutching will get that thing pulling like a freight train at the correct rev's.
ekimsx600
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Like Sled said go with an 8ab with 2.4 grams in the inner hole and run a 51/43 helix wrapped to 60*or 70* for a better back shift. Drop 1 tooth on the upper sprocket and hold on
ACE
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I Am Having The Same Problem. Is There Anything We Can Do With Just Weight, No Helix. Its A MONEY THING. DOES ANYONE HAVE PART #S
spike
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Thanks for the info guys! I recalled something about overrev problems, but didn't think they were that bad. Clutch kit it is!
Ace, have tried loading the stock weight but by the time you get it to the RPMS you need you will get a mid range bog.
ACE
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Ok I Talked Him Into Spending Some $ What Do You Recommend For A Kit.
watersuper
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On a 700 would using the stock 8-CH weights cause a bog at mid range if you use the 51/43 helix?
I liked the 8ab w/3.1 g in both holes, stock primary, 48/43 with green sec spring at 80 ...15 mm rollers
Based on the way the 8ch looks I would say yes but I have never tried it...its very similar in overall weight placement...
Based on the way the 8ch looks I would say yes but I have never tried it...its very similar in overall weight placement...
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wow, Thats the highest overrev I've seen on a 600 tripple, I though my wifes Vmax 600 tripple was bad at 9100rpm. My SX-R spun about 8800rpm after break in also. 51/43 helix brought it down a little, and Empty 8ca's (same as 8ab's but heavier) brought it down too much, I see about 8200rpm now and I hope the thin headgasket and reed stopper notching bring it back to ~8400rpm. Once I've got mine working good the same setup is going in the wifes sled. Even underreving to only 8200rpm my sled pulls better than it did over reving to 8800rpm.
ACE
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Where Would I Get The Helix And 15mm Outer Diameter Roller Is It 8mm Or 9mm Inner
Turk
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Check clutches for alignment & centre to centre..that will make overrev worse. Run 4.5 gram rivet in the tip & a 3.6 in the 1st hole..should get ya close for about $5.00 in parts.The 600 comes with 15mm rollers allready.
ACE
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Turk Do I Put Those Rivets In Stcok Weights To Bring It Down.
spike
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What rivets would you run in the 8ab's if we left the secondary stock? It sounds like a 2.4 in the center should be close?
ya, 2.4g and maybe .8 in the tip
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Thanks Sled! I think I will try the 2.4 and add the .8 if needed. Thanks again for all the help!
spike
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By the way, the back fire problem was two plugged pilots-thanks for the tip! While I have this thing apart, should I jet the mains down? Seems pretty fat. Run as cold as -30F, but not at WOT. Any tips on sizing?
if you doing the head gasket, I would leave it stock jetting.