ceramic coating or thermo wrap for Aaen pipes?

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Anyone usse the exhaust thermo wrap i would like to cramic coat the pipes but expensive up here do the wraps work good?
 
The slp's on the viper I bought where kind aof rusty and I send them to a place in Lino Lakes, MN called New Image Coatings...I got them sandblasted and ceramic coat for $ 180. I tought that was a great deal...They look awesome too.....

I think the wrap works just as good but I know is not cheap.....

BTW the guy from New Image Coating does ship UPS.....I think it will be worth a try...

Nick
 
mikeast said:
Anyone usse the exhaust thermo wrap i would like to cramic coat the pipes but expensive up here do the wraps work good?
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nothing insluates a pipe as well as the exhaust header wrap. ceramic coating helps to keep some heat in the pipe, but not like the wrap. the ceramic coating looks cool, but you need to upkeep it, to keep it looking nice. the header wrap can get expensive w/clamps, and it takes some time to wrap the pipes, but its cheaper in the end, and it works great. $45 per roll of DEI wrap and you'll need 2 and $2.50 ea for good cv boot clamps from car quest. you'll need like 18-20 clamps.
 
mopar1rules said:
nothing insluates a pipe as well as the exhaust header wrap. ceramic coating helps to keep some heat in the pipe, but not like the wrap. the ceramic coating looks cool, but you need to upkeep it, to keep it looking nice. the header wrap can get expensive w/clamps, and it takes some time to wrap the pipes, but its cheaper in the end, and it works great. $45 per roll of DEI wrap and you'll need 2 and $2.50 ea for good cv boot clamps from car quest. you'll need like 18-20 clamps.
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I agree with Mopar that wrapping will keep the pipes insulated (retain heat) the best by far but I have to say the SLP pipes I had on my Polaris where Jet-Hot coated externally and were relatively maintenance free. A slight discoloring later in life at the hot end but I had them on that sled for six years or so and had no chipping or major discoloring.

If you do go with coating make sure you have anything you want welded to them done now (i.e.EGT bungs).

Mopar - Have you had any issues with water collecting under the wrap and causing corrosion or does it dry up right away? I would think if you're playing in powder and get a lot of snow under hood you'd want to run things long enough to thoroughly dry the wrap. Your thoughts?
 
yes ,, and when not in use cover up,,, they do absorb moisture like a sponge...
 
my srx pipes are swain tech coated nice product with no maintence.
 

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amatosrx said:
my srx pipes are swain tech coated nice product with no maintence.
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Looks like the original banding on the pipe covers. Did you remove the covers or tape them off?

Yup, lot's of work. Looks great!

Not to highjack this thread, but I blasted and sprayed my outlet tubes last weekend. Never had much luck with self applied heat coatings but my prep skills and equipment have improved over the years so I bought a $10.00 can of VHT 2K F stuff with ceramic. I followed the off vehicle instructions (baked 'em in my woodstove) and they look good... so far.

If it holds up I might try it on the expossed hot ends of my pipes but it'll be harder to bake them... maybe one at a time.
 
snomofo said:
I agree with Mopar that wrapping will keep the pipes insulated (retain heat) the best by far but I have to say the SLP pipes I had on my Polaris where Jet-Hot coated externally and were relatively maintenance free. A slight discoloring later in life at the hot end but I had them on that sled for six years or so and had no chipping or major discoloring.

If you do go with coating make sure you have anything you want welded to them done now (i.e.EGT bungs).

Mopar - Have you had any issues with water collecting under the wrap and causing corrosion or does it dry up right away? I would think if you're playing in powder and get a lot of snow under hood you'd want to run things long enough to thoroughly dry the wrap. Your thoughts?
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the heat wrap does act like a sponge. if you ride in deep snow, the wrap does get wet temporarily and rust does like to form on the pipe underneath. now, maybe if the pipes were protected better, like painted w/ceramic VHT hi-temp paint, or powdercoated, or something, instead of just hi-temp paint that's only good for like 500-800 deg, then maybe the pipes wouldn't get rusty so easily?? the wrap dries up quickly cause of the heat, but the pipes will at least get some surface rust on them.
 
mopar1rules said:
the heat wrap does act like a sponge. if you ride in deep snow, the wrap does get wet temporarily and rust does like to form on the pipe underneath. now, maybe if the pipes were protected better, like painted w/ceramic VHT hi-temp paint, or powdercoated, or something, instead of just hi-temp paint that's only good for like 500-800 deg, then maybe the pipes wouldn't get rusty so easily?? the wrap dries up quickly cause of the heat, but the pipes will at least get some surface rust on them.
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Thanks.

I don't remember any ceramic stuff the last time I tried applying any paint myself nor do I remember it being advertised to accomodate 1300-2000 F. Or maybe I was too cheap the last time and didn't even look at the high dollar cans. This was 20 years ago.

Or maybe getting the part back on after painting but before baking on-vehicle without getting any grease or oil on it was impossible. The last time I tried it was on some headers before installing - ugly).

The destructions said to bake it at 250/400/>600 - 30 minutes each with 30 minute cool-downs in between. Similar for on-vehicle baking but they suggest tape and paint on vehicle - hmmm.

I guessed at the first two temps and cranked things up for the last cycle (open flue, open door vents). Had my rotary stove pipe thermometer up to 900 F so I think they got hot enough. Kind of siked to see how they'll hold up but I ain't holding my breath.
 
snomofo said:
Looks like the original banding on the pipe covers. Did you remove the covers or tape them off?

Yup, lot's of work. Looks great!

Not to highjack this thread, but I blasted and sprayed my outlet tubes last weekend. Never had much luck with self applied heat coatings but my prep skills and equipment have improved over the years so I bought a $10.00 can of VHT 2K F stuff with ceramic. I followed the off vehicle instructions (baked 'em in my woodstove) and they look good... so far.

If it holds up I might try it on the expossed hot ends of my pipes but it'll be harder to bake them... maybe one at a time.
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they were removed then sent out to swait tech. 10 years ago.
 
i think the makers of POR-15 rusty metal paint make some type of heat coating has anyone tried it, thanks again mopar for the pipes and i ordered black wrap to cover them after i blast and repaint
 
ubuyitirideit said:
i think the makers of POR-15 rusty metal paint make some type of heat coating has anyone tried it, thanks again mopar for the pipes and i ordered black wrap to cover them after i blast and repaint
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no problem kurt. it was a pleasure meeting you and doing business. you will love the power of the pipes over stock. let me know when you get them on there and if you need any help tuning, etc.
 
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