I thought i would check the power valves on the Viper today. I was surprised and also dissapointed that they were extremely dirty and carbon coated. Again, cleaned and reinstalled. I would not be a very happy sledder if I had to take the sled to a dealer every other trip North to clean Valves, if I could not do it myself. At this point I could not recommend a Viper to any of my customers. The 700 red head is so much user friendly.
Al
Al
JeepJimmy
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what oil you using?
we use yamalube only. Yamaha should not make any machine which is not compatable with thier supplied oil. Al
daman
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Cleaning PVs is childs play any one with limited mechanical knowledge can do this it's just part of the game if you want the added HP.
Also...there's many other factors that come into play when it comes to PV cleanliness,not just oil.
Also...there's many other factors that come into play when it comes to PV cleanliness,not just oil.
Daman, i am thinking jetting has a much brouder factor on the power valves than oil. Cleaning the valves are easy but have other items i would rather do. For trail riding the Red head engine is plenty. The upside my son and i get some more time together lol. Al
daman
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Yes jetting,oil pump setting,oil type,your thumb,gas,all has a part in it.alswagg said:
well i was going to mention it's fun but didn't want to sound like a dork but hey i like doing it so what,lol
i do hear what your saying tho yes....
horkn
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alswagg said:
I get your point, but swapping to amsoil or other power valve friendly oils will keep you from cleaning the PV's often.
On my 600 VES Polaris, I went from having to clean the PV's every fall with Polaris's GOLD VES oil to once every 3 seasons or so with amsoil.
Even if the sled were under warranty, the manufacturer cannot force you to buy their oil, to keep the warranty valid. If they require their oil to be used, the manufacturer has to provide it FREE of cost to the consumer. So basically, if the oil meets the rating requirements, then use what makes you happy, and what makes you work less on the sled and ride more. I like a little wrenching time too, but I think riding is better time spent with your family.
Hi there Al,, looks like your gonna have to get on it a little more,,, (blow it off)....
the viper is my son's, he is now 16. i don't need to tell him to get on it more. He does that enough now. we did have alot of boondocking this last weekend in deep knee high snow. somewhere around 250 mile the sled really rips, but i still prefer my sxr.
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horkn
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Al, I agree, at 16 we don't need to encourage him more
That said, I doubt even if he did wring the snot out of it that that would keep his PV's cleaner. That yamalube will snot up PV's pretty easily, high or low rpm.
That said, I doubt even if he did wring the snot out of it that that would keep his PV's cleaner. That yamalube will snot up PV's pretty easily, high or low rpm.
Amsoil Interceptor oil. Problem solved.
Netefrog said:
I second this, I rode ~2000 miles last year on my Viper, cleaned them about the beginning of the season and rode it hard for 1500 or so miles and then cleaned them again this fall before the snow fell.
SXlover said:
I swear by the stuff.
Waters88
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I will also say go for Interceptor. I just bought a Viper, and plan to use Amsoil.
I would try switching away from the Yamalube. My buddy had the same issue a couple of seasons ago. With Yamalube was claning them about every 500KM, and at that point they were in need of it. Switched to Amsoil, and cleans them once a season now.
I would try switching away from the Yamalube. My buddy had the same issue a couple of seasons ago. With Yamalube was claning them about every 500KM, and at that point they were in need of it. Switched to Amsoil, and cleans them once a season now.
PhatboyC
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Now that you showed your 16 old son how to clean and adjust his PV's he can do it himself since he rides the Viper. Then you can rest while he works on it and have enough energy left to keep up with him in the powder. lol
ryanryan
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Where in Canada?
I would like to run Amsoil Interceptor also, but at $14.99/quart at Canadian Tire, it's not happening! Have you found anywhere cheaper, and in one gallon jugs instead of quarts?
Netefrog said:
I would like to run Amsoil Interceptor also, but at $14.99/quart at Canadian Tire, it's not happening! Have you found anywhere cheaper, and in one gallon jugs instead of quarts?
lakeofthewoodsrider
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I have also seen it at CDN tire, but I am running the Shell Adv. syn. as well, I have seen a big diff from the yamalube. As for the price I dont think that the Amsoil will be too much better then the shell syn.
ryanryan said:
I get it cheap from a friend of mine who sells Amsoil products. And yes it comes in 1 gallon jugs.
lakeofthewoodsrider said:
I tried that stuff too, and trust, amsoil interceptor is a better product.
Viper77
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Become an Amsoil preferred customer and Interceptor is around $8.75CDN a quart. I too have seen it a CAN Tire (Disney World) for $14.99 and I shake my head.
