Mislead by a fellow member

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it happends again. I asked for a price on the gauge pod, dual headlight and wiring harness, the guys give me a price of $225 shipped and I send the money via paypal. I should have smelt something fishy when he kept refering the the wiring harness as underhood harness even though I mentione wiring harness in my PM's to him about 12 times. When I get the parts I see a gaue pos a headlight and the small 13inch hood harness. When I tell the guy there have been a missunderstand he does not try and resolve anything but tells me it is my problem and if I am not happy he will refund my money minus shipping to and from him. So I am suppose to eat $70. I asked him numberous times what does he want for the rest of the harness and he tells me nothing.
Then he tries and justifies the sale by saying he charged me $125 for the pod...I have never seen such an expensive srx pod in my life. Now he wont reply to my messages...RIP OFF SCAM!!!! I will give him a very short chance to come up with a resolution. Then I will post his information.
I know he ripped me off since he wont try and solve this and now tells me the pod ios $125.00 I would have never purchased these parts had I known. He made me a package price. RIP off and you know who you are Jeff!!!!
 

I'll post my own info, I sold the parts to you. First off, you clearly need a tape measure because the harness is about 3 feet long, not 13 inches. I asked you 2 times if you wanted the "underhood harness", your response was, "yes the underhood harness, gauge pod & headlight. I thought it was pretty clear what you wanted so I posted in the SRX/Viper forum to get some opinions on what a "underhood harness" is, 4 replies think it is the part of harness that goes under the hood. I have all the PM's from this sale & the COMPLETE harness was NEVER mentioned. The prices I came up with were pulled right from ebay, where another member from this site has listed a gauge pod for 125.00 buy it now. You asked for a resolution & I said I would buy the parts back from you, minus the shipping cost- I shouldn't have to eat the shipping because you don't understand what a "underhood harness" is, What more of a resolution could you ask for, If you're not satisified, get your money back. If you think the price was too high, should not have agreed to it. To recap, I asked 2 times- "the underhood harness", & you replied, "yes the underhood harness, gauge pod, & headlight". Come to think of it, I should have sent the engine, clutches, & exhaust, those are all under the hood also. Keep it coming, you will find that you are wrong!!
 
Do you not have a tone of messages where I say the wiring harness and not refered to as hood harness. You will find I say wiring harness alot in our communications. The price was not high for a harness, pod and light but is VERY high for an incomplete harness. I also asked what you want to the rest of the harness and you ignored that question twice. Why should it cost me $70 and no parts. not to mention it took you almost two weeks to ship the parts...whats your excuse there. I did not come on strong with my first messages to you until you made it clear that you would do nothing unless I agreed to ship the parts back at my cost plus eat the cost of your shipping. Thats why this was a scam fron the start. If you are really legit you would have said sorry for the misunderstanding...if you want the rest of the harness we will split the cost. Something to prove that you wantd to resolve this in a way that is fair for both of us...but you did no such thing. What am i suppose to think. You NEVER told me you were selling a pod at $125 or I would have said no thanks. Did you see how many pods on here for sale at $85 or less. i never asked for an underhood harness I asked for a wiring harness. We are both at fault but you dont realize that. I never aksed you to ship the rest of the harness to me for free but you avoided that resolution like it was never mentioned. Someone that does not want to provide a fair resolution is usually hiding something or you would have agred to some fair deal.
 
Let's play this out. You asked me for a price on the harness, gauge pod & dual headlight. My reply was, and i quote- " The underhood harness??, gauges??" To which you replied- Quote- "Yes the underhood harness, not gauges but the pod that houses tha gauges which is bolted to the hood but is a seperate part. The winshield also sits on the gauge pod.
I need the wiring harness, gauge pod and headlight.
thanks."
You act as if I should be coming up with a resolution to a problem that is not my doing. You bought these parts for the price we agreed on & I sent them out when I had time to do so. the tone I have is one I got from you, Remember saying $225.00 for these parts, "are you kidding me" that started the tone at which this matter would be handled. Why would I split the cost for something You clearly misunderstood. If there is a scam going on here it's you trying to get something for nothing & blaming it on me. You say you strip 20 sleds a year, Did you not know the harness unplugs right there, which would make the part I sold you, & described to you 2 times as the "underhood harness" The part you bought. IS THAT NOT CLEAR TO YOU???
 
Well, I don't have solution to the issues for the sale between the two of you but I do have a suggestion to keep this from happening again whether you are buying or selling.
1. Go to the Totallyamaha HOME page and click on the "Oline Parts Catalog" at the lower left of the page
2. Use the website to find the model and year of the sled for the parts in question
3. Find the parts in the exploded views
4. Copy the page and send it to the buyer/seller indicating what it is you are wanting by circling it on the page, using the item or part # or by using the description.

I have had issues with other members not understanding what it is they want but, I have been able to resolve every issue by using the Online Parts Catalog explode views.
Heck, here is a direct link to it:
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/parts/home.aspx

Mills
 
Jeff do you want me to copy and paste how many time I wrote you stating I need a wiring harness...i am not saying i am not at fault i am taking part blame but your only resolution is for me to be out $70 and to me that is not a fair deal. I sell harnesses complete I do not unplug any part of them this way i do not have misunderstandings. I can also copy where I asked you about the rest of the harness and you tell me you have it and I then ask you for a price which you would not give me..so what are you hiding and why are you NOT willing to meet me half way on this since we are both at fault.
 
the tone I have is one I got from you, Remember saying $225.00 for these parts, "are you kidding me"
I said that because had I know I was paynig $125 for a pod and a partial harness I can not use I would have NEVER purvhased these parts from you. Why would I pay $125 when there are all kind for sale for under $85.00. I misunderstood the underhood harness and you misunderstood when I asked many times for a wiring harness. It was not tone I was giving you it was just fact that I would not have purchased these parts and now you wont even sell me the rest of what I need.
 
This does not sound like a scam at all.

It seems that someone has misidentified the parts. I like the microfiche ID idea. No confusion then.

If it were a scam, the seller would not come to this thread right away and explain it. He would be gone if it were a scam. Also, he would not offer a refund on the parts if it were a scam.
 
the scam is him not wanted to make this right...he wont even quote me a price on the rest of the harness now even though he tells me that he has it. The scam is he knows I am not going to spend $70 and not have anything (no parts) how can I even be sure he will refund the money when he wont even give me a price on another parts.. The scam is him now saying the gauge pod is $125. Trust me if this guy was closer he would get his parts right back
The scam is him not making an attempt to resolve this other then saying I will refund the cost of parts but I need to cover $70 in shipping (who would spend that $70).
The scam is him not admitting there was a legitimate misunderstanding on both parts. I sent him links to me asking for a wiring harness, pod and headlight for an SRX I wanted these parts he misunderstood what I wanted and I misunderstood his underhood harness..I am man enough to admit that. If it was me that sold the parts I would have offered the other person a great deal on the rest of the harness and said sorry we misunderstood each other. And not ever answering when I ask about the rest of the harness and a price and he will not reply to that....there is somthing wrong in my books
 
All I aksed was for a resolution... Send me back all my money and you have have your parts back. If not you come up with a fair resolution

The above is part of a message I sent him and has not replied and i am not suppose to think there is something wrong!!!!! he will not answer my simple requests he keeps telling me I misunderstood the underhood harness..so yes I admit that and he still wont reply to my numerous request for a price for the harness or my last saying message saying refund my money... he may have offered the refund but has nnot followed through with anything.
 
a wiring harness is a complete harness , thats how i sell them , not in pieces ,if someone needs a piece off this site and i got it i'll give it to him , as a matter of fact i leave all electrical stuff pluged to it aswell , send him the harness , i bet it will increase your sales # in the end ...
 
Easy fix to this
Do you have the other half of the harnass
if yes how much shipped
Then is that price ok with buyer
if yes deal done, if not everyone goes there seperate ways.
Done deal
Lets wait and see if he has it and how much before anymore arguing goes on here
 
maxdlx said:
Easy fix to this
Do you have the other half of the harnass
if yes how much shipped
Then is that price ok with buyer
if yes deal done, if not everyone goes there seperate ways.
Done deal
Lets wait and see if he has it and how much before anymore arguing goes on here
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Thanks Max...I have asked that numerous times with no reply. trust me I did not post here as a first reply. I sent him 11 pms asking about the rest of the harness. never got a price and he never replied to me saying give me my money back.
 
I kind of think a fair recourse is the refunding of the money back minus shipping. I have been on the selling end before, and that is what I offered, full refund minus shipping. You have to realize that he might have missed another sale on the goods also. Of course the shipping was about the same and the parts was over $1000. So it is a little different. I also see the under hood harness beind just that the part of the harness under the hood. The other harness would be the engine harness, or the main harness.
The best thing to do would be to sell the harness needed for the price of shipping.
 
All joking aside, I went through this exact same scenario with another member here. We came to the conclusion he would refund the money minus the shipping, and that was the end of it. I'm sort-of on ottawair's side on this one.....other than him not wanting to sell you the right harness, I don't see what he has done wrong.
 
ryanryan said:
All joking aside, I went through this exact same scenario with another member here. We came to the conclusion he would refund the money minus the shipping, and that was the end of it. I'm sort-of on ottawair's side on this one.....other than him not wanting to sell you the right harness, I don't see what he has done wrong.
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You would have to see the multiple messages back and fourth. If you were expecting a wiring harness and only recieved part of it and wonder why you paid so much would you not questions what happend. I told if I would of understood what he was selling me I would not have purchased his parts. He misundersotood what part i wanted and I though I was clear and I misunderstood what part he was selling and he thought he was clear. I kept refering to a wiring harness which in my mind is a complete harness even though he did refer to it as underhood. And now that this misunderstanding happen he dissapears after his one post and will not answer my PM's. So that is not a stand up guy. If i would be in his shoes I would rather try and resolve the issues then not to do anything. he offers my money back and wont follow through with that now since he wont reply.
 
You think I have nothing better to do than reply to you all day, I have this thing called a job that keeps me from replying to you at all houre of the day. I am starting to wonder what world your small mind resides in, I have posted to this thread 2 times this morning, I have not disappeared, you have not pm'd me since this thread was started until just a few minutes ago, you act as if I have been not replying for weeks on end. I am done replying to your pm's, I will reply on this thread so everybody can read what was said. I am not hiding anything, I am right here in plain site. Your attempts at belittling me are only making you look like an *** to everyone who reads this thread. My attempts at resolving this were met with your refusal to return parts minus the cost of shipping so stop saying I have not offered you a resolution. If you don't want the parts send them back & I will refund your money, minus the shipping cost, I have not followed through because you did not say that is what you wanted to do. How can I follow through with something that is not acceptable to you. I will post it right here, when the parts arrive back to me I will refund your money, minus the shipping cost, which was $35.00. I will paypal you the remainder at that point. What I will not do is eat $35.00 because you don't know what a underhood harness is. Also, I will not give you the rest of the harness because you mis-understood what you were buying. If I was getting paid by the hour to reply to your posts, I would have charged you more. This is my last reply to you, I am not disappearing, or hiding, I simply am done with this. This is the deal I am offering, take it or leave it. Right here, right now, send back the parts, intact, & when I recieve them, I will send you $190.00 via paypal. THE END......
 
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