eliminator351
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I just bought a 99 MM700. To good of a deal to pass up... Anyway, it has the original track. Looks like a camoplast and is a 136. I also have an old take off from a 2000 MM it is an original 141 Yoko (I know...a bad track!). My question is should I leave the 136 on or put some extensions on throw the 141 on. I am afraid I will be taking a step back by putting the yoko on even though it is a longer track. Eventually I will long track it with a 151 or more but cant afford to do it this year. Suggestions???
sasksrx
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I wouldn't bother if you are going to put a 151 on in the near future. Why pay for track extensions and do all the work for an extra 2.5" of length? Just my opinion...
Truckkid42
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ride it til you get the money to upgrade to a 151.
eliminator351
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True... Was the original camoplast track on the 99's a decent track? This thing will end up in the mountains and I am just a little worried about how it will do as it is currently set up. I wasn't impressed on how the yoko 141 performed.
Mysledblows
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The difference between the the 141 and the 136 is one lug on the ground so the length is a mute point. The Camo is probably a superior track to the yoko. The 99 still had the deeper approach angle which was the reason for the 2000+ being the 141 - they changed the approach angle and made it shallower to get the sled up on the snow rather than plowing through it. If it was my decision to make and you are working on a short budget I'd find a good used 144, take some careful measurements or find someone that can provide them for you, and set the skid back 3-4 inches to improve the approach angle and get a slightly longer and better designed track. Then sell both of your other tracks and come put about even.
eliminator351
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...so if I put a 151 on I should also relocate the skid. Does it really make that big of a difference if I long tracked it?
Mysledblows
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If it was my sled and I was going to go with a 151 I'd toss the POS yamaha skid in the trash and put a real mountain suspension under it. All of the other brands mountain suspension work better in snow and are lighter. Most of them are fairly simple to install with a little grinding, shimming, and drilling depending on which one you decide to us. I went with 144's in my sleds as I ride them here in MN and out west so I had to compromise on the length. I'm using 136 Polaris/Holz skids.
eliminator351
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I hadnt thought of doing that. I might have to search the local bone yard for a skid.
YooperMike
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but a polaris lite skid in 136" flavor bolts up directly to the stock MM holes and you can use a 144" track on it? Well, front hole anyways.
Mysledblows
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I think that is true on the 2000+ sleds, but not the 99 and earlier. The front holes are in a different spot.
YooperMike
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I knew I was remembering something incorrectly. Get a cat 141 skid and set it back to utilize a 151....I believe there is a thread/threads on here talking about it somewhere. Or go completely off the deep end and get a fabcraft skid (or other aftermarket).....
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eliminator351
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What year cat skids and what cat models? I may have some available. It sounds like it is going to be a project...
09+ Crossfires have a 141" skid.
YooperMike
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I would think 05 and newer M-skids. If you look on snowest or good ol' craigslist, you could probably find one for cheap, $300 and up.
Super Sled
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YooperMike said:I would think 05 and newer M-skids. If you look on snowest or good ol' craigslist, you could probably find one for cheap, $300 and up.
How hard would it be to install one of the 153" Sno Pro M - Series skids into a 2003 Mtn Viper.
Now that would be an awesome ride!!!!!!!!!!
If not bolt in (I assume it wouldn't be), anyone in MN have the technical know how to do this?
Mike
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YooperMike
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I think there are some threads on here about this topic, check snowdad4 and mtndreamer, I think they have done this before. There was another guy too, can't remember his screen name, something like cacs something something. I didn't check. I also remember at one time, someone actually had a mounting template for this. Search!
bolin22
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If You Were To Go Out West, Who And What Would You Be Riding With?
If Your Buddies Are All On 151 And Longer Machines, You Are Going To Be Booing With A 136.
If They Are On Phazer St's And Modular Helmets, Your 136 Will Prolly Dominate The Group.
I Think The Different Skid And 151" Is The Way To Go If You Want To Get Around And Have Fun In The Mountains. The 136" Will Not Be Sufficiant For Offtrail Deep Snow, And You Would Be Amazed Where You Will Be Able To Go With A 151.
If Your Buddies Are All On 151 And Longer Machines, You Are Going To Be Booing With A 136.
If They Are On Phazer St's And Modular Helmets, Your 136 Will Prolly Dominate The Group.
I Think The Different Skid And 151" Is The Way To Go If You Want To Get Around And Have Fun In The Mountains. The 136" Will Not Be Sufficiant For Offtrail Deep Snow, And You Would Be Amazed Where You Will Be Able To Go With A 151.
eliminator351
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Well, I live in Montana so I am already out west and I only ride in the mountains with guys that usually have at least 151's. This is going to be a backup/spring sled and for other family so I am not in a huge rush and maybe don't even need a longer track but I want one, you never know. I pulled the skid tonight to take a look and man is that thing heavy!! I think I will be looking for a different skid so it has gotten more complicated and expensive. I think a 151 is the minimum I am going to go....
bolin22
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Sorry Didnt Realize You Were In Montana, Like You Said, Skid Swap Is Prolly Your Best Option. There Are Some Great Deals To Be Had Out There.
yam_apex91469
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Trash the stock suspension - I added a 136 M10 stretched to 151"
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