I own 08 apex with simmons flex skis, they work well on trail but dart violentely on ice or hard pack. HELP!!
Vmax540
VIP Member
You can throw money in a hole on skis and carbides to correct handling and darting or spend 1/2hr. and place a 50 cent shim under the back of the saddle.
http://www.bergstromskegs.com/challenge.htm
http://www.bergstromskegs.com/challenge.htm
This doesn't work on simmons. It is a defect in design. What you are feeling is the transfer of the sleds weight and the drag on the carbides change from inside to outside carbides on each ski as the ground changes shape. Because the carbides are a few inches from center, they have leverage on the stearing, when both left carbides have the load, they will force the sled to want to turn left, or atleast give the stearing a yank. Same for the other direction. This effect can only be lessened by a tight front end.. I recomend an ulmer front end bushing kit and go through your plastic shaft bushings and tighten them up as well as any tie rod ends(probably the dog bone one under the rh side panel).
If the skis have worn down, this effect can increase as the end of the carbide which is a pis poor design in the first place becomes more exposed.
Hope this clears a few things up with regaurd to what is going on up front with these skis. They handle great 90% of the time and track straight, corner good but with everything, there is that issue, well, two really, the other being the slow speed effort in corners, which again, is built into it and there is nothing to help it other than hit the gas.
If the skis have worn down, this effect can increase as the end of the carbide which is a pis poor design in the first place becomes more exposed.
Hope this clears a few things up with regaurd to what is going on up front with these skis. They handle great 90% of the time and track straight, corner good but with everything, there is that issue, well, two really, the other being the slow speed effort in corners, which again, is built into it and there is nothing to help it other than hit the gas.
Thumper1
New member
as far as wear bars, bergstrom makes a much better designed carbide than the simmons carbide. it gets rid of the dangerous carbide pad in the front of the rod and uses hard weld instead. make sure this isn't the issue with your current rods that are on there.
SWEDE
New member
I think the additional weight of a 4 stroke sled make the tendencies your talking about alot more pronounced as I have not noticed this at all with my sx-r.I have been very impressed with simmons with the only real drawback being heavy low speed turning,but I don't drive slow so its no big deal lol!!!
bolin22
New member
carbide
What are you running for carbides?
What are you running for carbides?
iahacker
Member
We have a couple sleds with these on them and don't see any issues at any speed on and surface.
How about checking the ski alignment? Must have some toe in or loose bushings like betheviper says. Maybe not enough ski pressure too.
How about checking the ski alignment? Must have some toe in or loose bushings like betheviper says. Maybe not enough ski pressure too.