ryan2001sx600r
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I know this has probably been discussed a million times but I couldn't find my answer in the search function.
I have a 2001 SXR600 with proaction and i'm getting it ready for the riding season. When I compress the rear supension the control arms don't move at all. All of the gap is on the upper portion of the control arm and no matter how much you compress it it doesn't change?
Idea's?
Thanks
Ryan
I have a 2001 SXR600 with proaction and i'm getting it ready for the riding season. When I compress the rear supension the control arms don't move at all. All of the gap is on the upper portion of the control arm and no matter how much you compress it it doesn't change?
Idea's?
Thanks
Ryan
Do u mean the transfer rods???
ryan2001sx600r
New member
The guy in the Yamaha Pro Action Tuning video referred to them as control rods. I'm sure they are the same thing you are talking about though. The rods towards the back of the supension where you measure the upper and lower gap, etc.
Ok thats the same. Does it sit like that with u off the sled or on itryan2001sx600r said:The guy in the Yamaha Pro Action Tuning video referred to them as control rods. I'm sure they are the same thing you are talking about though. The rods towards the back of the supension where you measure the upper and lower gap, etc.
ryan2001sx600r
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both. Doesn't move i bit. Nothing is binding from what i can see.
Sounds like your rear shock is blown pick up the rear and see what your gap is. Then see if you can move the suspension up and down by hand. I would personally pull the whole skid out and go over it make shure the w arm isn't broke and replace all bad bushings and have your shocks checked out
ryan2001sx600r
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Okay, thanks.
The gap does not change if i pick the rear off the ground, sit on it or compress it all the way. All of the gap is on the upper portion.
The gap does not change if i pick the rear off the ground, sit on it or compress it all the way. All of the gap is on the upper portion.
Hmm try taking out the rear shock then see if the skid moves up and down its only 2 bolts maybe the shock is bent did u buy it this way? Could be a few things going on here

staggs65
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do your rails have two sets of holes for the transfer rods. any chance you have the long rods in the short rod holes. just a thought
ryan2001sx600r
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I bought this sled new in 2001 and tune it up/check it out every year and i've never seen this issue before so it's new this year. I haven't changed anything as far as moving stuff around. About the only thing i've ever done is adjust the full rate adjuster(or whatever it's called).
I'll pull the shock out tomorrow, i only have 2000 miles on the sled but it is 10 years old so i'm sure it is due for a rebuild.
Thanks
I'll pull the shock out tomorrow, i only have 2000 miles on the sled but it is 10 years old so i'm sure it is due for a rebuild.
Thanks
sleddineinar
VIP Member
If you haven't done it yet, follow Bethevipers stuff on fixing that skid. Something is certainly out of wack if your transfer rods don't move. When I had a proaction skid in mine I followed these write ups and it made a world of difference!
www.totallyamaha.net/forums/showthread.php?t=34503
http://www.totallyamaha.net/forums/showthread.php?t=30541
www.totallyamaha.net/forums/showthread.php?t=34503
http://www.totallyamaha.net/forums/showthread.php?t=30541
FF-Tony
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Ryan, I have watched that video and mine dont move very much either, from looking at that video the sled they use as a demo is set up VERY soft, I loosened all my rear shocks and the full rate adjuster this year, then the control arm gaps moved much more. Just my thoughts.
ryan2001sx600r
New member
Thanks for the replies. This is a new problem as last year when i sat on the sled the upper and lower gap would change, as the vidoe shows. I haven't changed any settings since i put it away last year so something is broke. It does feel a little softer, or easer to compress the supension from what i can remember so maybe it is the rear shock. I'll yank it out tonight, once the Vikings find a way to lose this game.
ryan2001sx600r
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Pulled the rear shock out and then when i lower the back of the sled the transfer control rods work but how do you tell if the shock is bad?
Take your spring off and see if it moves down with force it should come back up on its own . If u cant get it to budge it might be bent. If it goes down with ease and u have to pull it back up u need to get it rebuiltryan2001sx600r said:Pulled the rear shock out and then when i lower the back of the sled the transfer control rods work but how do you tell if the shock is bad?
ryan2001sx600r
New member
OK, i give up. I took both shocks to the shop and had them rebuilt and it's still the same. the back end just feels soft, same as before.
Pull the skid and rebuild it. You likely have something binding or even broken. Something that might be contributing is that the springs might have failed.
Ding said:Pull the skid and rebuild it. You likely have something binding or even broken. Something that might be contributing is that the springs might have failed.
X2
My pro actions occasionally have acted like this when they have frozen up. Since ice isn't your problem, I would suspect that corrosion , dirt, lack of lubrication ect is the culprit.
Bob
sockeyerun
Test Dummy
It's probably time to pull the suspension apart and service..
X3
The bushings are basically just plastic and do not last long. If yours haven't been replaced since it was new, I'll bet they are shot. Every sled that I have personally pulled out and serviced had worn bushings. I pulled my wife (who isn't a hard rider) XTC's suspension when it was 5 years old and found the upper control rod bushings were worn completely to the main aluminum shaft and had worn into it so bad I had to replace the shaft. Most of the other bushings were shot as well. I now check mine every other year and replace the worn out ones. I have always greased my sleds after each weekend. There are several bushing that can only be greased but pulling them out (shock bushings are one of them). Soc
X3
The bushings are basically just plastic and do not last long. If yours haven't been replaced since it was new, I'll bet they are shot. Every sled that I have personally pulled out and serviced had worn bushings. I pulled my wife (who isn't a hard rider) XTC's suspension when it was 5 years old and found the upper control rod bushings were worn completely to the main aluminum shaft and had worn into it so bad I had to replace the shaft. Most of the other bushings were shot as well. I now check mine every other year and replace the worn out ones. I have always greased my sleds after each weekend. There are several bushing that can only be greased but pulling them out (shock bushings are one of them). Soc
ryan2001sx600r
New member
Ding said:Pull the skid and rebuild it. You likely have something binding or even broken. Something that might be contributing is that the springs might have failed.[/QUOTE
The shop rebuilt the shocks and I brought them over with the springs on them. Would it be obvious to them if the springs were bad when they took them off and put them back on?
I will pull the skid out tonight.
Thanks