Viper Suspension Setup

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BettheViper, question for ya.

On your thread, "setting up your rear skid", you talk briefly about setting 'total transfer rod gap'.

Just to fill you in where I'm at, I've pulled the skid, changed all bearings, greased, cleaned etc, shocks have been rebuilt. I've loosened the limiter straps all the way (like you mentioned) and taken all preload off the front shock (like you said ). I'm ready to install the suspension and set the sled down and attempt to set my gap properly.

Just curious what i'm supposed to do with a starting point for transfer rod gap. I haev a 2003 viper so I don't use those white plastic washer to make adjustments, I can just adjust moving the nut, there is actually the lines on the rod which I'm sure mean something.

So where exactly should I be starting with in terms of gap?


thanks man, appreciate all your helpful insight.
 
ViperMark said:
BettheViper, question for ya.

On your thread, "setting up your rear skid", you talk briefly about setting 'total transfer rod gap'.

Just to fill you in where I'm at, I've pulled the skid, changed all bearings, greased, cleaned etc, shocks have been rebuilt. I've loosened the limiter straps all the way (like you mentioned) and taken all preload off the front shock (like you said ). I'm ready to install the suspension and set the sled down and attempt to set my gap properly.

Just curious what i'm supposed to do with a starting point for transfer rod gap. I haev a 2003 viper so I don't use those white plastic washer to make adjustments, I can just adjust moving the nut, there is actually the lines on the rod which I'm sure mean something.

So where exactly should I be starting with in terms of gap?


thanks man, appreciate all your helpful insight.
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you should start at 50/50 gap
 
sorry, missed this. total gaps should equal 14-16mm. once your setting ride height based on gaps, go for 50/50 or 60/40 top/bottom with all weight on sled. You want to end up at no lower than 50/50 with all weight on sled on the trail.
 
BETHEVIPER said:
sorry, missed this. total gaps should equal 14-16mm. once your setting ride height based on gaps, go for 50/50 or 60/40 top/bottom with all weight on sled. You want to end up at no lower than 50/50 with all weight on sled on the trail.
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So don't even bother adjusting the gap while the skid is on the bench? Because if I remember correctly when setting the gap with my weight on the sled, I don't just adjust the control rod nut's, I adjust the rear shock until I achieve a 50/50 gap.

So how do I know I'm roughly at a descent starting point? Right now on my control rod's there are three lines showing. I'm asuming these lines mean something, just not sure what?
 
They are there to give you a guide from side to side adjustment. Total gap is measured with rod assembled with rod extended. on a long travel sled, you should have a 5-7mm spacer on the bottom of the rod
 
So just leave them where are for now? And set a 50/50 gap with my weight on the sled by adjusting the spring pre-load on the rear shock?
 
yes, as long as they have either a 5 or 7mm spacer on the bottoms and total gap is 14-16mm, your ready to set up the sled.
 
BETHEVIPER said:
yes, as long as they have either a 5 or 7mm spacer on the bottoms and total gap is 14-16mm, your ready to set up the sled.
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No spacers on the bottom of my sled? I have 2 washer's on the either side, but no way those are 5 - 7mm. I thought the white washers were for 2002, and they chaged in 2003 and 2004 to the quick adjustment using the nuts.
 
ViperMark said:
No spacers on the bottom of my sled? I have 2 washer's on the either side, but no way those are 5 - 7mm. I thought the white washers were for 2002, and they chaged in 2003 and 2004 to the quick adjustment using the nuts.
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sorry,
if there is no spacers, you need some, either 5 or 7mm spacers should be on the lower side against the steel washer on the base of the transfer rod shaft. If not there, you're skid is being coupled much later in the travel.
 
BETHEVIPER said:
sorry,
if there is no spacers, you need some, either 5 or 7mm spacers should be on the lower side against the steel washer on the base of the transfer rod shaft. If not there, you're skid is being coupled much later in the travel.
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So that's probably why my sled feels like it has no suspension at all....I don't weigh a lot, so the thing is barely coupling then?
 
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