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I can't locate a fuel shut off valve on the sled (97 VMAX 600 XTC)..... If I have one (and yes I looked where I thought one would be)...can you either post a picture or describe where it is... :dunno:
 
I want to add one.....found one of fleabay for $4

mind you, if it already has one and all I have to do is find it I can save $4 :sled1:
 
This is one of those brilliant ideas from Yamaha engineers. Let's not put a fuel shut off on the sled, but a big warning in the manual not to trailer with much fuel in the tank or you might hydrolock it and ruin the motor. Smart, really f'in smart. I plan to add a shutoff to the Vmax I just bought.
 
If you're really curious and don't have a manual, here is exactly what is says:

"Transporting: Make sure that the fuel level in the fuel tank is lower than the bottom of the carburetors. Otherwise, the vibration and bumps from the road surface could make it possible for fuel to flow through the carburetors into the crankcase. This can result in "hydrostatic lock", a condition where the engine cannot rotate because of fuel accumulated in the engine. Severe engine damage can result from hydrostatic lock. When possible, the fuel tank should be empty during transportation, especially if the trip will be longer than 30 minutes."

Way to go a**hole engineers. Now the first thing I have to worry about when I get to my drop, is finding a gas station because I can't start my day out with a full tank. You don't see anything quite this dumb from the other brands.
 
Well i guess you can call them a hole engineers but they built a sled engine that will run forever. Yes a shut off would have been cheap and easy but it is not there. I have not installed shut offs on any of my sleds and have been trailering with full tanks for as long as i can remember and never gave it a second thought. Unless you taking your trailer off roading with your sleds and full tanks then yes maybe just maybe this could happen on the 3erd full moon of the new harvest on a odd tuesday that starts with a W. Your fine. Fill up with good gas where you always get it and pull away!!!!
 
I had a shut off on my 700sx but took it off. I was always forgetting which way was off. Wearing out my arm trying to start it. so after the first year of owning my sled I took it off. I trailer and load my sled into my truck all the time never had a problem.
 
No you dont have to worry the warning is for the kind of guys that pull a trailor with wheels that are larger than the car that is pulling it.The sled is on a angle making the floats open in the carbs and gas will enter the moter.Put your sled in the back of a pickup truck and close the tailgate under the track will have the same effect.


If you have a flat hauling trailor this will never happen.


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all you have to do is purchase on of them fuel line pinch tools.Small and compact and can be put over the gas line hose and tightened down while trailering. No fuel will transfer then.Take it off when you get to where you are going.I have 2 of them and use them actually to pinch the lines to the carbs where the antifreeze runs to heat carbs.Then when I pull the lines off the carbs,I don't have coolant leaking out everywhere.
 
My buddies 96 Vmax 4 cylinder filled with gas last winter. Carbs were just cleaned and it was NOT being trailered. Luckily no damage. When I witnessed that shut-offs were installed on all my vmax4'a and my sons Vmax 600. Not worth the chance in my opinion. Really don't care Yami did not due in production just happy sleds almost 20 years old still run awesome and are as fast as new sleds today(a little harder on back) :yam:
 
snerkman said:
This is one of those brilliant ideas from Yamaha engineers. Let's not put a fuel shut off on the sled, but a big warning in the manual not to trailer with much fuel in the tank or you might hydrolock it and ruin the motor. Smart, really f'in smart. I plan to add a shutoff to the Vmax I just bought.
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A fuel shutoff sounds like a cheap way to under engineer a tight fuel system.
 
snerkman said:
If you're really curious and don't have a manual, here is exactly what is says:

"Transporting: Make sure that the fuel level in the fuel tank is lower than the bottom of the carburetors. Otherwise, the vibration and bumps from the road surface could make it possible for fuel to flow through the carburetors into the crankcase. This can result in "hydrostatic lock", a condition where the engine cannot rotate because of fuel accumulated in the engine. Severe engine damage can result from hydrostatic lock. When possible, the fuel tank should be empty during transportation, especially if the trip will be longer than 30 minutes."

Way to go a**hole engineers. Now the first thing I have to worry about when I get to my drop, is finding a gas station because I can't start my day out with a full tank. You don't see anything quite this dumb from the other brands.
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We have well over 40,000 miles of trailering on our sleds. No worries, no problems. If trailered properly, ie level, you will not have any problems. If you have weak needle and seats, carbs will flood any time. I always laugh at trucks with a sled in the back and tailgate closed, the sled is now setting at a 30* angle. Why???? Heck I would think it would be a pain just to get it that high. lol. Good luck Al
 
For those that think my only beef with Yamaha is a lack of fuel shutoff, it's far from that. I owned a 2008 Apex GT (the sweet anniversary model). When I bought it, I was expecting an R1 for the snow. I was greatly disappointed with much of the piss-poor engineering. No grease zerks on the jack shaft and drive shaft bearings. Are you kidding me? Every sled of any other brand I've owned had greaseable bearings. Instead I'm tearing apart and replacing rusty bearings on a sled less than 2 years old and less than 3000 miles. All the overheating issues on hard pack needing to add another cooler and ice scratchers? Never had any issues like that with any other brand.

I bought the Vmax because it was too good a deal to pass up. I'm not sorry I did, I like the sled for what it is. But whose idea was it to take a reverse shift lever off a 1960's farm tractor? And you can't get the dipstick out of the chaincase without removing two springs from the muffler. Even then, the pull rope protecting sleeve is in the way for easy access. And then there's the whole suspension thing that I won't even get into since everybody already know their weakness there.

Knowing Yamaha's reputation for motorcycles, musical instruments and electronics, I just expected way more from them than what I see in the two sleds I've owned.
 
snerkman said:
For those that think my only beef with Yamaha is a lack of fuel shutoff, it's far from that. I owned a 2008 Apex GT (the sweet anniversary model). When I bought it, I was expecting an R1 for the snow. I was greatly disappointed with much of the piss-poor engineering. No grease zerks on the jack shaft and drive shaft bearings. Are you kidding me? Every sled of any other brand I've owned had greaseable bearings. Instead I'm tearing apart and replacing rusty bearings on a sled less than 2 years old and less than 3000 miles. All the overheating issues on hard pack needing to add another cooler and ice scratchers? Never had any issues like that with any other brand.

I bought the Vmax because it was too good a deal to pass up. I'm not sorry I did, I like the sled for what it is. But whose idea was it to take a reverse shift lever off a 1960's farm tractor? And you can't get the dipstick out of the chaincase without removing two springs from the muffler. Even then, the pull rope protecting sleeve is in the way for easy access. And then there's the whole suspension thing that I won't even get into since everybody already know their weakness there.

Knowing Yamaha's reputation for motorcycles, musical instruments and electronics, I just expected way more from them than what I see in the two sleds I've owned.
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Just cuz you own a Polaris with Yamaha stickers on it doesn't mean Yamaha's are junk. It means you're afraid of the truth or you have no idea what the difference is.

If you want to bash Yamaha quality in comparison to other brands you will get no respect here.

Go away,

opsled
 
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Maybe is time to sell your Yamaha and go buy one from the other brand....Whatever the one you think is the most RELIABLE to you....Just saying.

I understand your frustation, but I believe u will find that ALL brands of anything have flaws or things that you will need to tweak JMO....

And I mean ALL brands. Chevy, Ford, Dodge, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

Either way :yrules: :yrules: :yrules: :yrules:
 
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