sloTJ
Member
Kinda stupid question but I feel like it shouldn't be this difficult. This will be the third skid In this sled now if I can get it to work. Anyway, I had the older max skid in previously (red slides) which I got out fine myself. I found a viper skid to throw in for a newer better ride hopefully for super cheap and in great shape. I can't get the track to stretch over the back axle without feelin like ill break some lugs off or something. The track is a 1.25" ripsaw I believe. Any tips or tricks on doing this? Thanks.
JDViper
Lifetime Member
In your picture, it looks like there is something in the tunnel holding the track up. Is there something in there?
sloTJ
Member
Yea it's just some strong trimmer string
shaggyzr2
Active member
is your front shock still bolted up to the w arm? if it is try it with the shock out, that might help it go ahead a little more.
super1c
Super Moderator
With the viper long travel you will have to do as shaggy says or just push the w arm up above the drivers then line up the front mount holes after the skid is in. You will have to get the back end way up to get the w arm to drop back down to the mount holes after skid is in.
sloTJ
Member
Oh, plot twist. Hah. Yes the front shock is still attached. So you MUST unbolt it to fit it from what I'm hearing?
Hey guys I'm doing the same swap right now. 1st time putting a skid in this yammie. I have done it a few times on my other sled (04 ski doo) With that sled I put it in while the sled is on its side. Is that the way you do these yammies? Or can you put it in while its on the sled lift? Thanks for any help.
1997 Vmax swapping a 2002 viper skid in.
1997 Vmax swapping a 2002 viper skid in.
snomofo
VIP Lifetime Member
Hey guys I'm doing the same swap right now. 1st time putting a skid in this yammie. I have done it a few times on my other sled (04 ski doo) With that sled I put it in while the sled is on its side. Is that the way you do these yammies? Or can you put it in while its on the sled lift? Thanks for any help.
1997 Vmax swapping a 2002 viper skid in.
While I've never done a skid swap with the sled on it's side it seems to me that gravity would help with wrestling it in. Never installed a Viper skid into a Vmax either but installing a Viper skid into an SRX - unbolting the bottom transfer rods bolts help compress the skid (kinda making it "smaller"). Using strips of 1"x1" in between the drive lugs of the track (or a plastic crazy carpet) at the rear wheels and silicone spray helps the rear wheels slide along the inside of the track.
I use my sled lift with the sled moved back (further than normal) and use a tie-down from the radius rods to the lift to keep the sled from tipping backwards.
Scuba Greg
New member
Hey guys I am working on this a 1997 VMAX with a 2004 Viper skid going in. Did anyone have to drill new center holes on this conversion ? Mine seem 3.5 inches to far forward toward drive clog.
Scuba Greg
New member
The VMAX is wider so I am swapping rods out that the bolts go in. But have to turn down front rod first
Scuba Greg
New member
You end up getting this skid in?
Can you advise me of any helpful hints!
Working on a 1995 VMAX and putting a 2004 Viper skid in.
Any help and ideas besides what I have read here?
its a 1995 VMax Please help
Can you advise me of any helpful hints!
Working on a 1995 VMAX and putting a 2004 Viper skid in.
Any help and ideas besides what I have read here?
its a 1995 VMax Please help
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super1c
Super Moderator
It will fit with a little muscle. We put a viper skid in your exact Sled and it was a bit of a chore. Start from front, then do center then rear. Make sure you take transfer rod bolts right out to do center then put back in to help with rear. It is a perfect swap just takes a bit of work, not sure why? Another set of hands and a ratchet strap helps!
BETHEVIPER
Life Member
Directions for installation:
loosen drive shaft bearing set screws
back off the transfer rod lower bolts 3/8-1/2 in
back off rear idler adjustment all the way, move axle ahead and tighten axle bolts.
put fra adjuster in the soft/upper setting.
lift sled so that the front shaft will just fit under the frame next to the drive shaft
then slide the front into the track so it is headed toward center and in front of the drivers
now reach through the track and pull the skid toward you while lifting it up and down
lower rear of sled while holding back on skid to pull it behind the drive shaft
now install the front bolts, dont tighten
now go to the rear bolts, lower the sled onto them(two putty knives help to guide it past the inner braces)
install these bolts, don't tighten
now lift the back of the sled, the weight of the suspension will lift the center/fra shaft into place, you may need to wiggle it a bit to get it up past the rivets(this is the reason for not tightening any bolts and loosening the bearing locks)
now tighten all suspension bolts
lock tight and tighten the bearing set screws
tightening the suspension first will make sure that the bearing has no side load on it.
loosen drive shaft bearing set screws
back off the transfer rod lower bolts 3/8-1/2 in
back off rear idler adjustment all the way, move axle ahead and tighten axle bolts.
put fra adjuster in the soft/upper setting.
lift sled so that the front shaft will just fit under the frame next to the drive shaft
then slide the front into the track so it is headed toward center and in front of the drivers
now reach through the track and pull the skid toward you while lifting it up and down
lower rear of sled while holding back on skid to pull it behind the drive shaft
now install the front bolts, dont tighten
now go to the rear bolts, lower the sled onto them(two putty knives help to guide it past the inner braces)
install these bolts, don't tighten
now lift the back of the sled, the weight of the suspension will lift the center/fra shaft into place, you may need to wiggle it a bit to get it up past the rivets(this is the reason for not tightening any bolts and loosening the bearing locks)
now tighten all suspension bolts
lock tight and tighten the bearing set screws
tightening the suspension first will make sure that the bearing has no side load on it.
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it also helps to lay a coup[le of broom handles down across the track to help aid the slide in procedure
Scuba Greg
New member
Thanks for the info will post more photos when it is done.
This will end up being a total rebuilt sled.
Once skid is in
This will end up being a total rebuilt sled.
Once skid is in
super1c
Super Moderator
it also helps to lay a coup[le of broom handles down across the track to help aid the slide in procedure
I use those old plastic magic carpet slides for sledding down hills, works awesome to slide skid in past track knobs!.
Scuba Greg
New member
Still fightin this skid no closer then when I asked!!
Anyone have photos of this skid in a VMAX ? I have a 1997 VMAX and I want this 2004 Viper skid in it.
Did anyone drill new holes ??
DID anyone have to change the length of track??
Seems like a 128 would fit but this 121 is a pig and just cant see where I can make up 4 inches
Anyone have photos of this skid in a VMAX ? I have a 1997 VMAX and I want this 2004 Viper skid in it.
Did anyone drill new holes ??
DID anyone have to change the length of track??
Seems like a 128 would fit but this 121 is a pig and just cant see where I can make up 4 inches
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I put a skid from a 2002 viper into my 96 vmax,I did drill new holes and riveted some steel in one location.
What I did was measured exactly how it fit in the viper and transferred those measurements to my sled.
What I did was measured exactly how it fit in the viper and transferred those measurements to my sled.
Scuba Greg
New member
we think to get it to mount in the factory mounts we must get a 128 x 15 track
super1c
Super Moderator
we think to get it to mount in the factory mounts we must get a 128 x 15 track
Why do you think this? This is a direct swap, no new holes nothing. Can you get us some pics of your skid and Sled. All things being right this skid will fit easy. Sounds like something is off on your end. Pics worth a thousand words