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Hey everyone,
I want to make my 1986 yamaha phazer more comfortable, better performing, and an all around cooler sled for this winter.
Only 15 so budget will have a limit however I dont mind spending money if it will increase the performance and or ride-ability of my sled.
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Would love to hear other peoples ideas for my build.
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Im shortening seat
dropping the track an inch or two
studding track
changing to plastic skis
new bars, hooks, strap, hand guards

BUT.....
I need to find the following info;
What cable(s) can I use because I want to use a 4-6 inch riser, but cant with the current cables.
A shorty, smoked/black or not chear windshield

Any Performance upgrades I can do?

Should I switch track and suspension? would it be worth it? What could I put into it with little trouble?

I have about 250 studs I bought a while back on craigslist and cant decide if I should stud the phazer a little (48 or 96) or just run a reg track?

Thanks Guys!!!
 
Do what ever you want. It's your sled. I would strongly suggest you leave the rear suspension alone unless you upgrade to a 121" skid/track and at that point install the skid in factory locations being measurements taken from a Phazer II chassis. Raising the rear end of the sled may look cool to some people but in reality it only causes drivablity problems. You''ll be plowing snow instead of riding on top of it for one. On a hard packed trail??? For get about it. You will never be able to make the sled go in a straight line. The darting and bump steer will throw you off the sled. You can aleveate the issue by raising the front end the same distance as you raised the rear. Easier said than done on a TSS sled.
A 3/4" or 1" lug is plenty for that sled with a stock motor. Make sure stud height does not exceed a 1/4" above the lug. 48 studs and a mild carbide is plenty for a stock trail riding phazer. Just remember, more stud, more carbide.
Bar risers and cables?? Your on your own. I thought someone mentioned sno scoot cables work in a previous post. I cant tell you if they do or dont.
My advice would be to clean and tune what you have in front of you. Make sure your shocks are good front and rear and everything moves freely. Clutches need to be spot on or perfomance will suffer greatly. If you want to make changes at that point, you will know if you have improved the sled or not for personal riding style. A well maintained stock Phazer is a hoot to ride. Take it for what its worth.
 
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What kind of ridding do you do? Clutch and re gear towards your type of ridding style. That's a cheap upgrade that can have great results. As for engine mods there's always pipes and jetting... But that adds heat and being a fan cooled engine I couldn't see that yielding a great service life. Plastic skis will help lighten the front end up. Switch to a bigger track and try to shed some weight on it.
 
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Throttle Junkie35 said:
Do what ever you want. It's your sled. I would strongly suggest you leave the rear suspension alone unless you upgrade to a 121" skid/track and at that point install the skid in factory locations being measurements taken from a Phazer II chassis. Raising the rear end of the sled may look cool to some people but in reality it only causes drivablity problems. You''ll be plowing snow instead of riding on top of it for one. On a hard packed trail??? For get about it. You will never be able to make the sled go in a straight line. The darting and bump steer will throw you off the sled. You can aleveate the issue by raising the front end the same distance as you raised the rear. Easier said than done on a TSS sled.
A 3/4" or 1" lug is plenty for that sled with a stock motor. Make sure stud height does not exceed a 1/4" above the lug. 48 studs and a mild carbide is plenty for a stock trail riding phazer. Just remember, more stud, more carbide.
Bar risers and cables?? Your on your own. I thought someone mentioned sno scoot cables work in a previous post. I cant tell you if they do or dont.
My advice would be to clean and tune what you have in front of you. Make sure your shocks are good front and rear and everything moves freely. Clutches need to be spot on or perfomance will suffer greatly. If you want to make changes at that point, you will know if you have improved the sled or not for personal riding style. A well maintained stock Phazer is a hoot to ride. Take it for what its worth.
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Perfect response!!!!!

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I am unfarmiliar with what I should do with gearing, only 15 and trying to get performance out of my aged sled.
Anyone have psi or aaen pipes for a phazer??
I would love to get a set
 
Stock gearing works very well and I wouldnt change it at this point if i were you. A pipe is a good bolt on and ads some easy ponies and really wakes those sleds up. There are plenty of single performance pipes out there to be had for around $100-150. I know several companies made twins for the Phazer, but I have yet to see a set anywhere except in old catalogs.
One thing to remember is, that when you add a pipe you absolutley need the correct jetting and clutching or the pipe is pretty much useless and could make your motor a time bomb.
Start with one mod at a time and see if you like it. Modding sleds can be realatively inexpensive but the results can break the bank. Trust me, I have a good collection of burnt pistions from bad judgement and bad jetting to prove it.
 
phazers are hard to tune to pipes because of that lean midrange, but it can be done. as for gearing, lets say your ridding style is ditch banging and tight trails where top end isn't needed. you could lower your gear ratio to get more low end punch out of the sled for pulling the front end and blasting corner to corner. orrrr lets say you lake run more, raise it to get more top end. imo, i would focus your time and money on dialling it in more with clutching and gearing, that would leave it reliable and can yield great results for the price.
 
roudyroy1 said:
phazers are hard to tune to pipes because of that lean midrange, but it can be done. as for gearing, lets say your ridding style is ditch banging and tight trails where top end isn't needed. you could lower your gear ratio to get more low end punch out of the sled for pulling the front end and blasting corner to corner. orrrr lets say you lake run more, raise it to get more top end. imo, i would focus your time and money on dialling it in more with clutching and gearing, that would leave it reliable and can yield great results for the price.
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This man knows what he's talking about. I would ride the sled as is for now, then make changes so you have something to compare it to. Make sure the sled runs good as is first, before you buy parts and take the sawzall to it.:wink:
 
PhazerPorn said:
I am unfarmiliar with what I should do with gearing, only 15 and trying to get performance out of my aged sled.
Anyone have psi or aaen pipes for a phazer??
I would love to get a set
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There's an AAEN in my local craigslist for $100 and includes a Winderosa gasket set. Good deal and I'd buy it if I didn't already have one. You could ask him if he'd ship it to you. http://up.craigslist.org/snw/4730254562.html
 
throttle junkie can attest to that I know just a little bit about these sleds in stock form to building a full race 90 plus hp motor .......take it for what it is

I would start out with going through the whole sled bottom up make sure all bearings are good next is carbs make sure they are clean and have good needle and seats and goo rubber plugs ............next will be the clutches by now unless they where perfectly taken care of I bet they need attention ...........once that is done then if you need more we can talk about pipe clutching and carburation

yes there are twin pipes out there made by PSI but not worth the time and effort a PSI single RPC Aaen work way better ..........with a stock phazer they are pretty snappy and a lot of fun and will run with most of the bigger sleds until you hit the lake ..........
 
Yamaha Nutz said:
throttle junkie can attest to that I know just a little bit about these sleds in stock form to building a full race 90 plus hp motor .......take it for what it is

I would start out with going through the whole sled bottom up make sure all bearings are good next is carbs make sure they are clean and have good needle and seats and goo rubber plugs ............next will be the clutches by now unless they where perfectly taken care of I bet they need attention ...........once that is done then if you need more we can talk about pipe clutching and carburation

yes there are twin pipes out there made by PSI but not worth the time and effort a PSI single RPC Aaen work way better ..........with a stock phazer they are pretty snappy and a lot of fun and will run with most of the bigger sleds until you hit the lake ..........
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Hey yamaha nutz!
Thanks for the reply
I have gone through the sled top to bottom back to front in the years previous, engine was rebuilt 2 years back, bored over, clutch got attended to, everythings solid, free moving, and functional. Its just time to get some pep out of her, a little better ride-ability, and a different sled than everyone elses phazer.
As for hangin with the other guys, trail is more of my concern for now, ive raced in years past and beaten newer A/C's and Skooby Doos, but im done with the whole "my sleds faster than yours" scene. Now I would like to have the reliability of the yamaha phazer, with a unique look, sound, and better performance.
Thanks again!
PhazerPorn

Snow will be flying soon, and so will our sleds!
 
work the pep out of the gear box and clutches. aftermarket pipes seriously reduce the engine longevity if you dont address the midrange fuel delivery issues of the stock butterfly carbs. throttle position and thumb training can easily overcome this problem. most people dont use the discipline.
 
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