BornYamaha
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Yamahas are different than other brands. They actually use all that goofy stuff with weird shapes inside to tune the intake. Other brands there are many sleds that you could pull off and be fine with a little jetting but it really is a problem to do it on a Yamaha. Especially with the butterfly carbs that sled came with. We are just trying to keep you from getting less satisfied than you already are. There is a good chance of a lean meltdown or if you jet up enough to stop that it will most likely run like $hi+. I wish you the best.
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kloudkiker
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The issue is that I'm not satisfied. And I cant just go outside and test it. It's a 2hr+ drive to the hill...
opsled
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kloudkiker
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I mean I love me some foghorn leghorn, but, um, what?
A couple of bucks
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I thourghly approve !!
northern srx
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Politely, I will simply say the knowledgeable people here are trying to make you aware of the inability to properly tune the midrange settings for the carbs on your machine. Purchase all the jets you want! By removing the airbox (your choice!) your only INCREASING the likelihood of problems, and YES, I FULLY UNDERSTAND "why" you want to remove it! Best of luck!
kloudkiker
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And I'm not about to put it back on! In fact I already sold part.of it. Stupid airboxes. Next I'll just put on some flatslides...
kloudkiker
New member
I do appreciate the concern, I really do. I just cant stand these things. And not easy to remove/ install. And no filter in the airbox? That's just odd. I understand the intake is 'tuned', sorta like how bose (speakers) tunes their enclosures. But some little scoop s and what I refer to as 'dildos' hanging around everywhere restrict airflow and reduces noise. How is restricted airflow good? At some point in the revs the tube and box cause the intake air it's supposed to 'pulse' differently? Or what?
kloudkiker
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I just got off the phone with a local, reputable sled shop. He said it will run just fine sans-box. I guess only time will tell (like this weekend up at crescent! )
opsled
Active member
Bring a tow rope.
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snowdad4
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If your serious about flatslides and pod filters, I have a set along with all you need to set your phazer up. If you still want to run oil injection, I have those parts as well including the oil cable and the dual cable throttle perch. Set up for altitude and they even have old school dial a jets if your running pyrometers. Make me an offer.
Put me on the anti-pod list for everyday riding as well. Been there, done that. Pods are good for racing but not so much the rest of the time.
Put me on the anti-pod list for everyday riding as well. Been there, done that. Pods are good for racing but not so much the rest of the time.
What's easier? Occasionally removing an air box, or constantly replacing pistons? It's your choice but with the butterfly carbs, you WILL burn it down in the mid range no matter what you do.
PZ 1
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I do appreciate the concern, I really do. I just cant stand these things. And not easy to remove/ install. And no filter in the airbox? That's just odd. I understand the intake is 'tuned', sorta like how bose (speakers) tunes their enclosures. But some little scoop s and what I refer to as 'dildos' hanging around everywhere restrict airflow and reduces noise. How is restricted airflow good? At some point in the revs the tube and box cause the intake air it's supposed to 'pulse' differently? Or what?
No filter is not odd for the time the Phazer was built. You probably were not around sleds when they had an open carburetor hanging right out there - and it would spit fuel on your jacket.
The late model intakes now have a mesh to catch the big stuff. There is no reason to put pod filters on.
How is restricted airflow good? You could say the same for the exhaust - why not put some big straight pipes on there? The intake is tuned just like the exhaust. Removing the airbox on some sleds will result in lost power.
kloudkiker
New member
I understand all about 2stroke exhaust. It needs a tuned pipe to run good. That's not a restriction tho
toydoc
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How is restricted airflow good? At some point in the revs the tube and box cause the intake air it's supposed to 'pulse' differently? Or what?
Yes, it called the Helmholtz Effect. Like a radio speaker with or without a speaker box. The speaker with the box sounds better every time. It pumps HZ, air signal.
Air box may also look redistricted, but its actually speeding up air flow and improving signal.
Guys that remove the air box and jet up think that have to add fuel because they added air. But they likely didnt add air, they lost signal (to suck fuel). So most are going the wrong way