SpiderViper
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Really good point yamaholic22 especially there familys they will probably want to kill you or hate you fo ever if you don't get sued which you probably will 
55 mph speed limit on trails
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06vectorgt
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Greetings all!
I had requested a copy of the NYS Snowmobile Summary Report (03-04) which the state had submitted promptly so I may review the data first hand. Data can always be arranged or presented in such manner which
exemplifies things in a certain light.
The following is what I take away from it:
Page 5 depicts education is up 500% since 1993 and page 15 tells me that fatalities are down 300% over the same time span!
Connection? I think YES!
I am not pro speed I am anti-BS so lets get the facts out on the table as they should be presented, Hats off to the state and the incredibly hard working club members who made this accomplishment possible!
The 55 MPH is a warm fuzzy at best, Be responsible for your own safety in the first place. Less than 30 MPH will cause fatalities just as easy (its that sudden stop.....)if you were to hit a tree or fixed object. 14 out of 18 fatalities were fixed object collision, mostly trees.
Page 21 gets a little confusing depicting 71% of all the accidents are of unknown operator experience. How can this be with all the other data gathered, did sombody forget to ask the simple question?
Thats a huge chunk of very relevent data missing!!!!!
I don't see this ever really getting nailed down due to all the factors involved, like land owners deciding if some one will get a speeding ticket or not while riding on their property.
Education is having the most positive effect on fatality reduction and I believe it would be most benifical to focus more energy in this direction.
If you read other states reports you will see that a speed limit did essentially nothing to reduce fatalities.
Lets stick with what has proven to work!
Lou
I had requested a copy of the NYS Snowmobile Summary Report (03-04) which the state had submitted promptly so I may review the data first hand. Data can always be arranged or presented in such manner which
exemplifies things in a certain light.
The following is what I take away from it:
Page 5 depicts education is up 500% since 1993 and page 15 tells me that fatalities are down 300% over the same time span!
Connection? I think YES!
I am not pro speed I am anti-BS so lets get the facts out on the table as they should be presented, Hats off to the state and the incredibly hard working club members who made this accomplishment possible!
The 55 MPH is a warm fuzzy at best, Be responsible for your own safety in the first place. Less than 30 MPH will cause fatalities just as easy (its that sudden stop.....)if you were to hit a tree or fixed object. 14 out of 18 fatalities were fixed object collision, mostly trees.
Page 21 gets a little confusing depicting 71% of all the accidents are of unknown operator experience. How can this be with all the other data gathered, did sombody forget to ask the simple question?
Thats a huge chunk of very relevent data missing!!!!!
I don't see this ever really getting nailed down due to all the factors involved, like land owners deciding if some one will get a speeding ticket or not while riding on their property.
Education is having the most positive effect on fatality reduction and I believe it would be most benifical to focus more energy in this direction.
If you read other states reports you will see that a speed limit did essentially nothing to reduce fatalities.
Lets stick with what has proven to work!
Lou
BroncoDave
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Rider experience may be pretty tough data to acquire accurately - especially if the rider is deceased. But it would be nice to know.
How many fatalities involved alcohol?
How many fatalities involved alcohol?
06vectorgt
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BroncoDave said:
After many years of research I too have discovered that dead men don't talk!
All kidding aside, This information could be easly had buy just asking family and or friends.Of the 18 fatalities 33% involved alcohol and 10% in all other accidents.
Unsafe speed and collision with tree attribute for the majority of accidents.
I will bet that the same holds true in auto accidents - Male driver under 25 yrs of age (the hot rod years).
yamadoovx600
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kinda a tough one can see the saftey factor but if you want it safe colse all the g---damn bars on the trails ya speed kills but drunk speed is stupid i have seen guys come out of the bar so drunkthey cant stand and get on their sleds and take off like wild men not safe at all 55 SUCKS what is the sence in selling the rx1 or any sled for that matter ! what do they want us to ride g---damn bravo's only thing i can say is CATCH ME IF YOU CAN COPPER!!!
BroncoDave
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So the hot rod years end after 25??? Sheesh, I better go dig up a copy of my birth certificate... 
06vectorgt said:I will bet that the same holds true in auto accidents - Male driver under 25 yrs of age (the hot rod years).
06vectorgt
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BroncoDave said:So the hot rod years end after 25??? Sheesh, I better go dig up a copy of my birth certificate...
I should have said "according to the Actuaries" I'm 48 and have been known to ride stupid fast but have never crashed. Its bad enough I have to be responsible but I'll be damned if I'll grow up!