Can a tripple piped Viper be reliable and decent on gas?

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Like it says above ? Can it be done? I really want more power and performance. I do not want to lose reliability and fuel mileage. What pipes should I be looking at? Should I be looking at using a Tempa flow or something like that ? Please discuss.

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Here Is My Deal , Bender Tripples 100 Miles Per Tank , Four Years No Problems ...
 
Yes it all depends on the setup and every sled is diffrent you might want to look at Expert X or Triple pipes? thread because ALLVipedUP i belive said that he has lost minnimal gas milage with his pipes. ;)!
 
From what I have investegated I would say the awnser is no. Because of the single factory pipe yammie put a lot of timing in between 8200-8500 rpm to give it some power and when your running pipes that is where the meltdown would occur, so pipe manfs have to compensate by running it very very rich. The tempaflow would help provided you took the time to set it up correctly based on plug color, piston wash, and most importantly EGT monitoring. I still don't think it would get as good as miliage under avg driving, it would probably fluctuate greatly.

Myself I have a set of SLP's in the garage and I'm leaning towards not installing them. The extra 33 hp would be awesome but snow is rare around here and causes us to drive and I will not drive 5+ hours for a 5 day trip and get some bad gas, or no prem gas avail, or not see my EGT's in hard driving, etc etc and have the thing pop on the first day.

Most will say it can be done reliably WHEN DONE RIGHT myself I don't have the time and knowledgable people around to help me get it dialed in and right, so I'll be selling them at the start of the season and stick with my bulletproof 120+ engine (I do have a CAI and clutch kit)
 
the set ups that run at higher rpms, such as the simons and the aaens are more reliable because they are up higher in the revs where the timing starts to retard and becomes safe again, and because of the increased flow from the revs and the tuning of the pipes, they don't lose power up there. In my opinion, simons and aaens are the best you can do for pipes on the vipers, with slps and benders being pretty good too. You need to take the time to get the head mod done, probably an opticool gasket, srx rear exchanger, and make sure you get it clutched to hold its intended rpm, if you are loading it too much and not pulling enough revs, you are in the dangerous area and are loading the engine like hell, not a good combination. Do it right, it'll be safe.
 
The simple answer is NO. The long drawn out high dollar answer is ...Maybe. I gave up after burn down number 4. ===SRXSRULE===
 
i have a setup for 700$ that will give over 13. ive seen 15mpg.
pipes
cdi
temp bypass
bellypan
frame mounts
flanges
flange extensions
bender can
stock muffler
chain case cover
rack of srx carbs with tps and all jets
this setup runs vents out and all srx jetting. on my sled i used 40pilots but i think 37.5 would be better on fuel and off idle running.
this is everything you will need to convert a sled to srx pipes. yes they fit.
 
I've got 3 season's so far on mine with SLP's. No problems yet. Not sure what the fuel mileage is, but it burn's the same amount as my buddy's 900 EFI Cat and less fuel than other bud's piped Mountain Max.
Make sure it's clutched to turn at the correct rpm's.
Also DO NOT silicone the fuel pump vent shut, it's fine for stocker's but with pipes you need the pump to be able to produce it's maximum rated output. If it has silicone in it, I'd remove it when you pipe it. Just shim the pump up off the tunnel, and you wont have freezing problems.
I'm not to wild about fuel mixture compensating devise's. I know there are a lot of guy's that use them, with good result's. Maybe I'm just old and set in my way's! It's just that I dont like anything leaning my motor out unless it's me changing the jet's! That way I know how much fuel it's getting.
Riding conditions/style can make a difference, if your constantly changing throttle positions. Such as off trail, boondocking, mountain riding, etc there can be less chance of a burn down. This would be because if there is a lean spot somewhere you wouldn't be spending a lot time in that throttle position.
 
There seems to be a bit of an mixed opinions on this. What do you mean by silcone on the fuel pump ? So who makes the best pipes for relability ? Who makes the quietest pipes ? The bottom line for me is that I am bored with my current 120hp. I am either going to switch brands or make this thing scare the shit out of me when I come onto it. I am throwing the idea of picking up a good used 2005 RX-1 and putting a turbo or supercharger on it. We will see. The Viper handling is hard to beat though.
 
NB-VIPER said:
There seems to be a bit of an mixed opinions on this. What do you mean by silcone on the fuel pump ? So who makes the best pipes for relability ? Who makes the quietest pipes ? The bottom line for me is that I am bored with my current 120hp. I am either going to switch brands or make this thing scare the shit out of me when I come onto it. I am throwing the idea of picking up a good used 2005 RX-1 and putting a turbo or supercharger on it. We will see. The Viper handling is hard to beat though.
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Silicone on the fuel pump was the mod done by the dealers or people who know how to do it to prevent the fuel pumps from freezing up, which was a pretty big problem on the '02s. The best pipes for reliability? I am going to say simons, aaen, and slp. Strongest of these are the simons. If you set them up to jeff's specs they are reliable and scream. Get the head mod done also to even up the compression, and the opticool gasket should be run as well.
 
2 seasons on CPR pipes without a single issue! Gas miledge OK @ around 10ish pushing hard.

CPR = Nice Power ;)!
 
On the bottom of the fuel pump there is a vent with a screen in it. When the pump is bolted flat to the tunnel, like how it comes from the factory. The pulsing action of the diaphram in the pump can suck water in up off the tunnel, then freeze when it sit's over night. The dealer's fix is to silicone the hole shut. A better idea, IMO is to shim the pump up off the tunnel about 5/16" with washer's, so it cant suck water in. Leaving the hole open allow's the diaphram full movement.

SLP's are the quietest pipe's.
 
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Well, My benders run real strong and I've been averaging around 120 miles per tank at 55 mph avg. speed. The power they produce, IMO, make the Viper where it's suppose to be. It's alot more fun and competitive when racing. The problem I'm having is Getting the traction to the ground!!!! Stock track (I know replace) with 192 studs. Even with the transfer rods set for all transfer, it just spins like a phazer on ice...LOL, but irritating.
Bender Racing triples
Boyesen rad valves
Heel clickers
Head mod
Optiflow Gasket
Rear heat exchanger

Soon! - Trail porting

I love my Viper and am not replacing it for another 2-3 years or if an influx og money comes in, whatever comes first.
 
I love my viper as well, no way I would pay 9G's for a new one, the viper is cheap fun compared to a new one even though they are nice, I still always get perma grin from the viper for at least a week after a trip what else can you ask for :)
 
I was thinking of getting pipes for my viper also but the more i thought about it the less i wanted them.My stock 04 viper s ran excellent all season and was plenty fast.Im going with a clutch kit,bar risers,hand gaurds,9830 track with 144 studs.
 
Allvipedup said:
Well, My benders run real strong and I've been averaging around 120 miles per tank at 55 mph avg. speed. The power they produce, IMO, make the Viper where it's suppose to be. It's alot more fun and competitive when racing. The problem I'm having is Getting the traction to the ground!!!! Stock track (I know replace) with 192 studs. Even with the transfer rods set for all transfer, it just spins like a phazer on ice...LOL, but irritating.
Bender Racing triples
Boyesen rad valves
Heel clickers
Head mod
Optiflow Gasket
Rear heat exchanger

Soon! - Trail porting

I love my Viper and am not replacing it for another 2-3 years or if an influx og money comes in, whatever comes first.
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Ditto for me as I have the almost identical setup other than Bender clutching and no head mod. 10-11 mpg and no problems with this one at over 3800 on the clock. Ditto for the stock track, 192 studs, and transfers as well! I swear I'm gonna tear this track apart as much as I can spin it. When I CAN get it to hook....Good Lord she's a rocket! ;)!
 
I'm With BTV

SLP's for three seasons. With money and time you will get the hp. and 10-12 mpg.

Good luck.
 
i did a full season oon my cpr pipes, great power, fuel milage???? jeffs setup for canada is much richer on the bottom end for our shitty fuel in canada, i have the head mod and think i will go to his usa pilot setting
 
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