Flatslides for phazer???

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phazerguy

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Hi everyone,
Have a question for you guys. I am in the middle of putting flatslides on an 86 phazer. No one makes a complete kit for this anymore, however aaen has been helpful. I have the carbs, a new throttle cable, a new oil pump cable. The thing I am missing is a throttle lever assy. that will pull two cables. What sled had a setup like this? I need to know the year and model so that I can order this and get my sled going. Also, I just got a new camoplast track .725 lug, what the longest stud can use without destroying this sled. It does have tunnel protectors.

Thanks for your time...
 
phazerguy said:
Hi everyone,
Have a question for you guys. I am in the middle of putting flatslides on an 86 phazer. No one makes a complete kit for this anymore, however aaen has been helpful. I have the carbs, a new throttle cable, a new oil pump cable. The thing I am missing is a throttle lever assy. that will pull two cables. What sled had a setup like this? I need to know the year and model so that I can order this and get my sled going. Also, I just got a new camoplast track .725 lug, what the longest stud can use without destroying this sled. It does have tunnel protectors.

Thanks for your time...
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I dont want to be negative but Dynotek tested the phazer with bigger carbs and it was hardly worth all the effort. Doesnt really add any h.p. (2.7 h.p. with a gutted airbox, you have to gut it to get the 2.7 h.p. or its like 1 h.p. difference)I didnt know if you were aware of this. Only would be benificial if you had full mod porting and twin pipes and such. Looking back in my old aaen books, one year they offered a 42mm flatslide, then the next year a 38mm flatslide so they even know it wont add much.
 
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They make it so much easier to tune with mods. On a stock sled I don't think I'd bother.

Eliminates the mid-range lean spot that the stock carbs are known for. Actually gives a guy some tuning ability rather than hoping the butterfly will work.
 
Yes, I am aware that they are not for hp gain, the sled is heavily ported, bored, piped
etc... I need them so that it doesn't fall on its face over idle.
 
what type of flat slides are you using. i was going to sugest using a set of keihin pwk's that came stock available on some 90's polaris 700's. you could use all the parts that came on the polaris real easily with out haveing to mix and match parts. do you have the Moto V force 3 reed cages on your phazer those would certanly help with the new carbs.
 
I am using the mikuni tmx flatslides, I don't have the v-force 3's. Heard that they weren't as good as the older ones, I was just going to run carbon fiber reeds. Even if I used the polaris parts I would still need to use the yamaha throttle lever assy because it need to pull two cables, one for the throttle and one for the oil pump.
 
the polaris throttle cable has a splitter built into it that operates the oil pump. now weather you can get the polaris oil pump cable end to work on the yamaha oil pump that beats me but i bet you could make it work. why dont you just elimintae the oil pump. if your engines that modded it seems useless to worry about using the factory oil pump. just premix it.
 
I went to premix on mine. Used a set of racked flatslides from a 600 vmax and a cat throttle cable. Only problem I had was getting the barrels and such to make the choke work. Took a little time digging in the junk guys pile of carbs, but after an hour or so we had pieced together everything we needed.
 
phazerguy said:
Hi everyone,
Have a question for you guys. I am in the middle of putting flatslides on an 86 phazer. No one makes a complete kit for this anymore, however aaen has been helpful. I have the carbs, a new throttle cable, a new oil pump cable. The thing I am missing is a throttle lever assy. that will pull two cables. What sled had a setup like this? I need to know the year and model so that I can order this and get my sled going. Also, I just got a new camoplast track .725 lug, what the longest stud can use without destroying this sled. It does have tunnel protectors.

Thanks for your time...
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I'm doing the same thing on my Phazer -94 and therefore I have the same problems.

I know this is some years ago, but do you remember what throttle cable and oilpumpcable you used, and did you try out the the throttle lever from the Exciter?
 
Yea, I did end up using an exciter throttle block, and did get the carbs working. The sled falling on its face turned out to be clutching problems. The sled rocks now. Ended up taking the flatslides off and put the stock carbs back on due to rules in stock class racing
 
Don't know what they came from, The cables came with the carbs that I bought from aaen. Give them a call, they should know what to use if not be able to sell you what you need. they will be able to get you close on jetting too. Are you trying to run tm's or tmx's? Is the motor stock?
 
Thank's for the tip!

At first i tried to run with rack carburators from a Polaris 600.
That didn't work at all, because it wasn't possible to change the nozzles, and so it was running way to rich..

Now i have installed a set of twin pipes from PSI and bought TM 38's and re-jetteded them(as recommended from PSI). I hope that these mod's will give some results.

I'm now trying to find the right spring for the primary clutch.
PSI recommends to use a silver/silver spring, but that is for the YPZ clutch.
Do you have any suggestions what spring I should use for the YXR clutch, which I have?
Recommended Engagement/shift rpm is: 43-4500/7600.
 
Not sure on the yxr clutch. I ran a silver silver in the ypz clutch and it was fast. I took the ypz off and put a newer style tall cover clutch on and now run a www which works real well.
 
I used to run a red/pink with 82m90 weights in my 91. single pipe, ported, flatslides. Engaged about 4200 and run to about 7300. Different set up, but might be aplace to start.
 
The Exciter ,Vmax 540, and 81 SRX and I think the other SRX's had the throttle that pulled two.Stick with the Exciter or Vmax so the kill switch will hook up Ebay has them all the time or any salvage yard. AAen had them so I am glad to see you are talking to them,they are very helpful.
 
Sturgis said:
Thank's for the tip!

At first i tried to run with rack carburators from a Polaris 600.
That didn't work at all, because it wasn't possible to change the nozzles, and so it was running way to rich..

Now i have installed a set of twin pipes from PSI and bought TM 38's and re-jetteded them(as recommended from PSI). I hope that these mod's will give some results.

I'm now trying to find the right spring for the primary clutch.
PSI recommends to use a silver/silver spring, but that is for the YPZ clutch.
Do you have any suggestions what spring I should use for the YXR clutch, which I have?
Recommended Engagement/shift rpm is: 43-4500/7600.
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I had (sold the sled in parts two years ago) an 1987 Phazer with the full mod porting from PSI, twin silenced pipes from PSI and ran a set of TM38 mikuni's, then switched over to a set of 38 flat slide Lectron's. I still have the Lectron's. Super easy to tune and gave a great midrange fuel signal. That is what that 485 motor really wants-------Fuel in the midrange. Without, detonation city. Good luck with your Phazer.
 
I still have my 1994 Phazer II, Aaen single pipe, re-cut heads, gutted airbox, Bender cold air kit, Bender clutch kit, dynojet kit, Bender widening kit, USI ski's, Fox gas struts up front and Fox gas shocks in the rear susp. 2100 miles on this sled. And, it has been always moved in a covered trailer and stored inside. Of my five sleds, this is my baby.
 
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