woolyviper said:
the phazer is almost 100 lbs lighter than the viper.
Wooly, I was just wondering about the 100lb weight difference. Was Yamaha lying when they said a viper was 497-499 lbs or are they lying with the 487lb rating on a phazer GT. Yamaha has always been suspect with wieght ratings (never listed the RX1 weight but we know why). So is the viper 587 lbs or is the Phazer 397lbs or is it somewhere in between? Serious question. I havent ridden a Phazer but have ridden many 400 and 500lb motorcycles, many 400 and 500lb atvs and many 2500 and 4000 lb sportscars. One thing that is always clear and obvious is the heavier vehicle is more stable and better for fast or long rides and the lighter vehicle is always quicker handling and more nimble. Neither is better just depends what you want. My Viper was a fat pig but for lake racing and long fast rides on groomed trails it was awesome. When I discovered tight twisty technical type riding the Viper was horrible. My riding has changed and I just have different needs. I will probably never go above 60 again so I want light weight, not worried about power but wont give up 40 horses for 10 pounds of weight just to get 4 stroke. I appreciate your input and help and am trying to find a place to rent a Phazer for a couple days before I buy.
if you compare wet weights between viper and phazer it's 100 lbs. taking into consideration the 4-5 extra gallons of fuel. if you want a lake racer - then the phazer will let you down. i live in minnesota, so a groomed trail is becoming a rare item and frankly the viper was junk if the trails were anything less than perfect. as far as giving up the horsepower, you are trading off top end for bottom end. i ride last in the group and if the trails aren't wooped out, i can climb on the last guy all day long. the plus is i can take the phzer off trail without the fear of it getting stuck like the viper. draw your own conclusions, the viper is 11 year old technology.