citgo two cycle oil?


i sure wish i could find sea and snow around here. i have looked at every store i have been in and nothing in the niles michigan / south bend indiana area.
 
daman said:
citgo sea and snow is the same as yamalube..
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are you 100% positive of that? Because according to citgo's website it isn't even rated TCW-3. But it says that the superguard marine is for high performance liquid cooed engines. please elaborate on that for us.
 
The last i heard....Yamalube is made by CITGO,Citgo has the contract for YAMALUBE They've had it for a long time now. and have been told it's very
similar to each other. i don't use either oil so i'm not keeping up on it....

you don't want a tcw3 spec..thats for marine....has differentt adds.
 
swmichsx said:
i sure wish i could find sea and snow around here. i have looked at every store i have been in and nothing in the niles michigan / south bend indiana area.
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Contact:

Kamp Oil Inc
616-241-5481

They will ship to you, or if you purchase enough, they will deliver to you if you are on their route.

I just had several cases delivered to me for $15.86 gallon.

It is Jaso FD and ISO EGD certified.

Granted it is not Amsoil or Klotz....but neither is the price. Yes some people will bash this oil.... but they are the same ones that believe the W inTC-W3 stands for WINTER. :rofl:

Hey, all the overspoken people always end up with a following of sheeples. :postwhore
 
yammy said:
are you 100% positive of that? Because according to citgo's website it isn't even rated TCW-3. But it says that the superguard marine is for high performance liquid cooed engines. please elaborate on that for us.
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Unles you are running an outboard engine in your sled... the TC-W3 oil is not recommended.

The Yamalube is different color and smells different than the Citgo Sea and Snow. So it is not 100% the same.. maybe same manufacturer... :dunno:
 
Yes, he has, and I run another flavor of oil made by the same plant. I use the Arctic Blue in all of our sleds except the XCSP, and it works fine. The 9.00 a gallon the arctic blue costs kept me from complaining too much about the oil pump on my 600 twin last winter;)

FWIW, the W in 4 stroke oil, say 5W-30, actually does stand for Winter. Obviously in TCW3, it means water cooled.
 
horkn said:
FWIW, the W in 4 stroke oil, say 5W-30, actually does stand for Winter. Obviously in TCW3, it means water cooled.
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You know that...I know that...and several others know that.
But the all mighty one was preaching that in his mighty thread..... sorry lost alot of credibility for false information.
 
Dave M said:
You know that...I know that...and several others know that.
But the all mighty one was preaching that in his mighty thread..... sorry lost alot of credibility for false information.
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I hear ya;)
 
The "W" in 5W-30 stand for winter?!?!?! Is this sold right next to the summer time blinker fluid?

Derek
 
Dnrtheil said:
The "W" in 5W-30 stand for winter?!?!?! Is this sold right next to the summer time blinker fluid?

Derek
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From Wikipedia...

[edit] Multi-grade
The SAE designation for multi-grade oils includes two grade numbers; for example, 10W-30 designates a common multi-grade oil. Historically, the first number associated with the W (again 'W' is for Winter, not Weight) is not rated at any single temperature. The "10W" means that this oil can be pumped by your engine as well as a single-grade SAE 10 oil can be pumped. "5W" can be pumped at a lower temperature than "10W" and "0W" can be pumped at a lower temperature than "5W". The second number, 30, means that the viscosity of this multi-grade oil at 100°C (212°F) operating temperature corresponds to the viscosity of a single-grade 30 oil at same temperature. The governing SAE standard is called SAE J300. This "classic" method of defining the "W" rating has since been replaced with a more technical test where a "cold crank simulator" is used at increasingly lowered temps. A 0W oil is tested at −35 °C (−31 °F), a 5W at −30 °C (−22 °F) and a 10W is tested at −25 °C (−13 °F). The real-world ability of an oil to crank in the cold is diminished soon after put into service. The motor oil grade and viscosity to be used in a given vehicle is specified by the manufacturer of the vehicle (although some modern European cars now make no viscosity requirement), but can vary from country to country when climatic or mpg constraints come into play.

So yes it does stand for winter....just does not mean much.

Here is the link... under 5.2 multi grade....winter
 
Dave M said:
From Wikipedia...

[edit] Multi-grade
The SAE designation for multi-grade oils includes two grade numbers; for example, 10W-30 designates a common multi-grade oil. Historically, the first number associated with the W (again 'W' is for Winter, not Weight) is not rated at any single temperature. The "10W" means that this oil can be pumped by your engine as well as a single-grade SAE 10 oil can be pumped. "5W" can be pumped at a lower temperature than "10W" and "0W" can be pumped at a lower temperature than "5W". The second number, 30, means that the viscosity of this multi-grade oil at 100°C (212°F) operating temperature corresponds to the viscosity of a single-grade 30 oil at same temperature. The governing SAE standard is called SAE J300. This "classic" method of defining the "W" rating has since been replaced with a more technical test where a "cold crank simulator" is used at increasingly lowered temps. A 0W oil is tested at −35 °C (−31 °F), a 5W at −30 °C (−22 °F) and a 10W is tested at −25 °C (−13 °F). The real-world ability of an oil to crank in the cold is diminished soon after put into service. The motor oil grade and viscosity to be used in a given vehicle is specified by the manufacturer of the vehicle (although some modern European cars now make no viscosity requirement), but can vary from country to country when climatic or mpg constraints come into play.

So yes it does stand for winter....just does not mean much.

Here is the link... under 5.2 multi grade....winter
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Unfortunately not enough people are aware of this fact. 2 more people just found out :rofl:
 
Dnrtheil said:
The "W" in 5W-30 stand for winter?!?!?! Is this sold right next to the summer time blinker fluid?

Derek
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I wouldn't look too hard for the blinker fluid, or the muffler bearings.
 
marty f said:
anyone know which citgo two cycle blend that yamlube is?????
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Why would you use Citgo oil???Do you guys know who owns citgo?? Even if it has all the appropriate designations, TC-W3 and so forth,this is more than enough reason not to use that crap.I will not support venezuela.Am I wrong for posting this?
 
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