sleeper_dave
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I have an '85 (I think) Phazer 500 (480E). I bought it semi-running last year ($300), did the bare minimum to it, and beat the piss out of it for the winter until a bearing in the drive (primary, secondary, whatever the shaft with the brake on it is called) broke. I'm in the process of fixing that, and since i'm showing it some love I want to fix the fuel issue I had all last winter.
I got it to idle beautifully. Electric start works, she fires right up at the turn of the key and purrs like a kitten. But when you hit the gas, it wants to die (it will die) unless you play with the enrichment jet (starter jet, "choke"). If you pull the enrichment jet as you hit the gas, it'll run fine all day long (a little flat in places, but good enough for a $300 ski) until you come to a stop, then you better get off the enrichment jet or it'll stall.
This tells me it's lean anywhere but at idle. So I increased main jet sizes. Did it incrementally, but ended up way overjetting with only minimal improvement. Of course, before I increased jet sizes I went through the carbs and cleaned everything up, made sure the floats float, and of course raised the floats. I did put them back to normal when I was playing with the jets, I pretty much covered any combination of raised float / bigger jet that I could last winter.
So, this year I'm thinking maybe it's not a carb problem, it's just manifesting as a carb problem. Maybe it needs crank seals, reeds, or something. But before I learn through trial and error (and throw potentially unnecessary parts at it) I thought i'd seek out an internet forum that could hopefully make this easier.
Is this a common problem on these things? Is there an easy fix? What engine seals would affect fuel metering to this extent, and how hard are they to change? Is there something in the carb that I'm overlooking? Is it common practice to pressure test these motors, and if so, what kind of pressure should I expect it to hold for how long?
As far as I can tell, the machine is stock except for a missing air box.
I got it to idle beautifully. Electric start works, she fires right up at the turn of the key and purrs like a kitten. But when you hit the gas, it wants to die (it will die) unless you play with the enrichment jet (starter jet, "choke"). If you pull the enrichment jet as you hit the gas, it'll run fine all day long (a little flat in places, but good enough for a $300 ski) until you come to a stop, then you better get off the enrichment jet or it'll stall.
This tells me it's lean anywhere but at idle. So I increased main jet sizes. Did it incrementally, but ended up way overjetting with only minimal improvement. Of course, before I increased jet sizes I went through the carbs and cleaned everything up, made sure the floats float, and of course raised the floats. I did put them back to normal when I was playing with the jets, I pretty much covered any combination of raised float / bigger jet that I could last winter.
So, this year I'm thinking maybe it's not a carb problem, it's just manifesting as a carb problem. Maybe it needs crank seals, reeds, or something. But before I learn through trial and error (and throw potentially unnecessary parts at it) I thought i'd seek out an internet forum that could hopefully make this easier.
Is this a common problem on these things? Is there an easy fix? What engine seals would affect fuel metering to this extent, and how hard are they to change? Is there something in the carb that I'm overlooking? Is it common practice to pressure test these motors, and if so, what kind of pressure should I expect it to hold for how long?
As far as I can tell, the machine is stock except for a missing air box.