your right im wrong thats y i removed my thread but im am not above admitting when im dumb and or being an idiot problem is i am a VERY honest person and when i missed that little tidbit(how i dont know) it infuriated me because it is repairs like that, that end up killing people( i lost a friend in a car accident due to tie rod so i have my reasons for being so outspoken) but like i said I MISREAD IM THE IDIOT IN THIS SITUATION but my intentions were good i didnt want to see him get hurt, but obviously hes smarter than that and thats not the problem @needsnow2go bro I have a solid mechanical background Im not the know all be all for sleds for sure but ive been building civics(hence the sn)riding sled (and doing all my own repairs including full rebuilds in past)and atvs since i was about 12 years old(obviously i started on easier projects and progressed)but I did my first B16 swap when i was 15(23 now bud)when did you first start wrenching and who taught you(i had my grandfather, a respected car restorer in carolina, for guidence on any project i felt i needed his help with, but most of my knowledge is self taught out of factory manuals and just getting down and dirty and doing it myself i had my trials and tribulations for sure that same B16 was also my first turbo project when i turned 17 and i blew it up due to lack of tuning on the ecu(but now with the help of a friend Ive been tuning all my own setups now using hondata and im not paying someone else to do it,so i consider my first blown B16 a worthy sacrafice in my quest to learn all things vehicular,because sure i could of just sent it to someone and had them dial in my a/f ratios,ignition curves etc. but by trial and error and with the help of a friend I eventually learned what i was doing and dont get me wrong i still have alot to learn for sure but i will never stop searching for more knowledge)point is you dont know me dude and you assume because I like to curse that I dont know what im talking about I may have started my argument based on my misreading of his thread but my information was not incorrect, so you have nothing with that argument, look like i said im just honest thats all one , two I speak how I feel anyone who tip toes around words is fraudulant to themselves if you want to say soemthing, say it at least if nothing else no one could ever question your integrity because it should be obvious to them at that point that you dont bullshit and you dont hold back. put it this way i would rather someone tell me to my face that I was a pathetic chump to them than fill my ears with B.S. just because they ,like you, care to much about what someone might think.again just being honest if you dont like me I cant say i blame you because initially this is MY fault , but at least im forward with you.