madzx2
Member
im to the point of installing my tunnel extension on my sled and im wondering what size rivets i need. the rivet holes in the extension are just about 1/4" diameter. do i need rivets with a 1/4" diameter for this? this is my first time riveting something together like this and i want it to be solid. i searched but couldnt find mention of actual rivet sizes. thanks
stein700sx
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I used 3/16 multigrip.
Purchased them from Sled Toyz
http://sledtoyz.com/component/virtuemart/?page=shop.browse&category_id=11
Purchased them from Sled Toyz
http://sledtoyz.com/component/virtuemart/?page=shop.browse&category_id=11
madzx2
Member
The 3/16 filled the 1/4 hole ok?
super1c
Super Moderator
madzx2 said:The 3/16 filled the 1/4 hole ok?
You dont want to be drilling 1/4 holes? Just 3/16 holes and rivets. You can also get the double grip OEM style rivets from members ding or BTV. Also OFT site sponsor on 4 stroke side has the correct ones also. Just did 2 tunnel ext with those exact rivets and it came out perfect. Why the 1/4 rivets?
super1c
Super Moderator
Who's tunnel ext are you using? Let us know and then we can get ya going in the right direction.
madzx2
Member
I believe its a mm or viper 141" extension stock Yamaha. All the hole in it measure 1/4" so I had some 3/16" rivets and put one in the hole and it seems to loose to work. I appreciate the help.
super1c
Super Moderator
Hmmm. Was it used? Maybe who ever took the extension off drilled out the holes with the wrong size drill bit? If the 3/16 rivets are two small then you would need to go to quater inch, but not sur where to get those. How loose are they? The double pull ones will fill the hole pretty well while keeping their strength. Can you post a pic with the rivet in from the underside of extension so we can see how much bigger the hole is comparedd to rivet? I could send you a few to try if it looks close.
madzx2
Member
ill post pics later today
madzx2
Member
snowdad4
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depending on the ratio of big holes vs smaller holes, i would suggest using 3/16" solid aluminum buck rivets in the 1/4" holes, they will never loosen. i am a firm believer in this type of attachment.
can be done pretty cheap if you can borrow the riveter. know anyone in the aircraft repair industry? an air chisel can be substituted if you have the hammerhead attachment and the rivets are cheap on-line.
can be done pretty cheap if you can borrow the riveter. know anyone in the aircraft repair industry? an air chisel can be substituted if you have the hammerhead attachment and the rivets are cheap on-line.
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super1c
Super Moderator
Looks like they used a oversized bit taking old rivets off. Does a 1/4 inch drill bit go through that hole. If not just by looking at those pics the double grip 3/16 double grip rivets should work. And it doesnt look like a lot of holes are in that ext, you can always drill new ones. Your seat will cover most of the holes up. And if ya want just back fill the holes that still show with rivets for looks..
super1c
Super Moderator
The stavex double grip rivets will fill a hole almost to a 1/4 inch. Up to . 205 per spec. So im thinking they would be ok if that oversized hole is under a quater inch.
madzx2
Member
They are between .205-.250 on the bigger ones. I dont know anyone with aircraft rivet equipment either.
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sasksrx
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I went and bought some aluminum 1 1/2x 1 1/2 angle and attached them in the inside corners of the tunnel and tunnel extension for extra support. It hardly added any weight and I just used normal rivets in the tunnel extension since they weren't depended on as much for support. Seems to be holding up good.
madzx2
Member
That's a great idea, thankssasksrx said:I went and bought some aluminum 1 1/2x 1 1/2 angle and attached them in the inside corners of the tunnel and tunnel extension for extra support. It hardly added any weight and I just used normal rivets in the tunnel extension since they weren't depended on as much for support. Seems to be holding up good.
super1c
Super Moderator
The hartmans i just installed came with the aluminum supports. Really made the tunnel solid. Your supposed to be able to tie the rear down to a trailer or tow from the bumper when the supports are in place. Did you come up with a plan for your rivets yet?
madzx2
Member
im going to find some 3/16" steel rivets and if i have to drill some new holes ill do that if i need to. ill pick up some angle aluminum too.
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super1c
Super Moderator
These are the ones you want. Steel mandril and aluminum body. The steel will rust. Ding and BTV sell them also but its summer and a hard find right now. These guys shif fast and are a site sponsor on the 4 stroker side. http://oftracing.com/OnlineStore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=104
madzx2
Member
Ok, a guy I know recommend steel rivets because they are stronger. I'll get some aluminum.
sleddineinar
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In the past I've bought all my Stavex from Ding. He's always been real good to me. But I know that BetheViper is a good guy too.