ViperXC
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So why aren't all the 4-strokes fuel-injected? If the Venture is a 120hp fuelie then why not all of them? I was thinkn they would all be fuel-injected after this year.
ViperXC said:So why aren't all the 4-strokes fuel-injected? If the Venture is a 120hp fuelie then why not all of them? I was thinkn they would all be fuel-injected after this year.
I believe all of that innovation is what causes the lack of quality control. If you're building a new sled every year do you also have the time and resources to fix the old ones?maxout01 said:This thread is solely about the 2009 line up. Not quality control. The bottom line is skidoo sells sleds around me like they are gas from mobil. And all the yamahas, polaris', and cats are sitting piled high like the old candy under the register. Skidoo markets on inovation and most people follow. They dont care about anything else. Now with that said I dont want yamaha to give up on quality, but as far as I am concerned I will never find a dealer ever with a 2003 left over rev. I have found numerous dealers with alot of left over 2003-2007 yamahas. That tells me something from a selling standpoint. There needs to be a sled made that takes the skidoo POS head on, same weigh, better ride, better motor, and better quality. Skidoo has a sled for everyones want and needs even whether you want a 2stroke or fourstroke. And they got the most disirable chassis out there. If they arent on top then why is every yamaha dealer beggin for sales and skidoo dealers cant keep enough of them for demand?
Groovetastic said:I believe all of that innovation is what causes the lack of quality control. If you're building a new sled every year do you also have the time and resources to fix the old ones?
I wonder if those dealers realize yamaha gave up on selling huge volumes of sleds back in '02 when they dropped all the 500s from the lineup. It is surprising they still have that many leftovers though.
ViperXC said:So why aren't all the 4-strokes fuel-injected? If the Venture is a 120hp fuelie then why not all of them? I was thinkn they would all be fuel-injected after this year.
MrSled said:Well maybe if some of you 2 smoke guys would come on a ride I could show you how good these 4 strokes are.... always welcome to try any of the 4 that I own....along with my brothers.....
FX Nytro RTX
New Phazer.
Attak GT
will have a XTX and a New Venture GT or even the RS Venture....
You would think on paper the turbo woud be the sh&t, but the magz tested it on the lakes and was pulling 105-106mph. You would think they'd do better than that. Heck alot of stock Apex's have been done much better than that on GPS.justaviper said:The new cat turbo is on my mind after seeing the 09 Yammy's. Nothing to impressive there. They are very nice machines but i need more power.![]()
I still own my Viper only because of financial restraints. I ride in the UP every year and have had alot of experience with the new 4 stroke Yammies up there. The Apex and Nytro both will smoke my Viper and I have a VERY good running Viper too. I love the turn key start, the reliability of the new Yammies, not to mention the sweet sound and the great fuel mileage. I just wish I had as much spare cash laying around like I did before I had kids. The new Nytro RTX SE would be high on my list for a new sled....but I still love the APEX models too.S.X. said:I really cant believe some of what I am reading here, some of you guys are complaining about the lack of an 09 that meets your style? Exactly what will make you leave your 2 strokes?
I would like to invite any of you that live in Michigan or the surrounding areas to come up to Munising the last weekend of the month (snow permitting of course) and spend some decent time on my Attak or one of the many Apex's that should be there. Weather permitting we are getting a last minute TY ride going. I really think you may have a different outlook on the potential of the 150hp sleds if you spend some time on one, or even a well tuned Nytro, you may be amazed as to exactly what is present and available from Yamaha!
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maxout01 said:Well to all you guys that said us 2strokers need to ride a four stroke.. I rode an 08 nytro this weekend for about 100 miles. I have to say the power is very smooth and unbelievable. The ride is also very smooth over bumps, moguls. Much improved from years past. Heres my problem with it though. I dont know if I rode it more if this would go away but.. I was VERY uncomfortable with the size and stability. Every turn through the trails actually scared me. It feels to wide in the front and too heavy and I felt like every time I wanted to through the sled around, it threw me around. I didnt feel in control which is what scared me. Now on the lake.. I smoked every MF out there.. BUT another sled we were trying out was the 09 revxp 800R.. Holy crap is that thing fast for a 2 stroke! The nitro got a run for it's money on the lake.. BUT easily wooped it in top end though! The nitro sounds like a jet flying down the lake wow it was awesome, the 800R sounds like a 454 with open headers cool too but not close to the nitro.. Both of these sleds impressed me. I rode the 800R through the trails too. It honestly was the most easy going fun ride I have ever had on sled. I noticed the yami was very close to that but I would have to get over the nervousness I got every time I went through the twisties. It might have been the weight that made me feel that way, but in time I think I would be happy with it. BTW these were both rentals me and some buddies took out yesterday. Both had about 500 miles on the odo when we started, about 800 when we stopped. The skidoo can woop the shit out of the nitro in the trails, the nitro can woop the shit out of the doo everywhere else, especailly quality.
Ski doo : Superb handling. Best sled ever made for handling. You dont even have to do anything to ride it. Sit and enjoy. Too bad doo cant get quality down. The sled impressed me. And I think yamaha has in alot of ways caught up to that but they need to refine it. Anyway my review!
I'm still not ready for the 4 stroke yet..
Yami: Awseome clean feeling power and refinement. Definitely beat in the trails by doo, but far exceeds it in power/quality. some more seat time I think would get me to enjoy the trails more on it.
Anyway my review!
I'm still not ready for the 4 stroke yet..