snoman33x
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I know the viper is old school by todays tech of the four strokers and all for Yamaha, but I just love mine to death. Riding here in SW Pa we dont get al ot of seat time but when i do get to im in heaven. Yesterday was the first time all year i was out all day and but about 75 miles onmy 02 viper. Im drooling over the new 06's but think ill jsut hang on to mine for a few more years.
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There isn't a smoother 2 stroke engine on the planet.
snoman33x
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Im not even sure i want to pipe it now ts jsut running soooooo good.
yamaholic22
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it still amazes me how smooth those things are, and they are just sneaky fast, so quiet and stealth-like. Definately fun sleds
Viper Treats
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Vipers are great sleds. Piping is OK, they are really fast, but the stock vipers are just fine. With the pipes you sacrafice mileage and reliability and if you don't get it right the first time it is a lot of messing around. If you want to do anything, get a clutch kit for it. That makes a huge difference. Should be all you need.
kyle3201
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Hot that one on the head. I loved mine. had over 10,000 miles on mine before getting rid of it. Didn't think I was ready for a 4 stroke but a nytro is on the way soon!
yamaholic22
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vipers actually have real good clutching stock, and its easy to improve on a little with a 4.5 gram rivet in the outter hole and around a 52/44 or 54/44 helix.
RedlineViper
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i have a vector and have put more miles on my viper this year! i just can't see getting rid of it.
I've had real good luck with my viper 5000 miles with only an electical harnest problem. I have keep it pretty much stock except for a bender can and studs, and C&A skis.
03viperguy
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yamaholic, can you explain how to do that to someone that has never opened a clutch before?? looking to tinker, but dont want to ruin what it is...super smooth and reliable. so no pipes or anything else. clutching seems good to me... anyone have a good website that explains clutching and all the parts?? thanks guys, sorry to hijack the thread
snoman33x
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well mine has studs and is clutched. im thinking of changing skis and wouldlove to stretch it to 136 but hate messing with it. i may look for a wrecked one and do it up.
yamaholic22
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03viperguy said:yamaholic, can you explain how to do that to someone that has never opened a clutch before?? looking to tinker, but dont want to ruin what it is...super smooth and reliable. so no pipes or anything else. clutching seems good to me... anyone have a good website that explains clutching and all the parts?? thanks guys, sorry to hijack the thread
There is actually a real good overall explanation of clutching on the tech pages. What are you personally looking to do to your clutches? The rivets and helix? Where is it revving at right now?
03viperguy
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seems to be revving pretty good, just maybe get some more grunt to it. clutch wise I am an idiot, dont know a damn thing. also looking to rebuild the clutch on the wife-to-be's 00 600 sxr. has over 6k miles and getting time to refresh it
TimeBomb
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i agree, i love my viper. every time i ride it i love it, it is not the fastest out there but it keeps me around the middle of the pack. i'm gonna hate the day i get rid of it but i gotta pay for the apex gt somehow. all i did to mine was bender can, bender single pipe, heel clicker clutch kit and studs for performance anyway. lots of other accessories
ak ryda
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Yes it is true that the viper is old technology, heavy, underpowered in stock form, and does not have a chassis conducive to big bumps and mtn riding like the Doo REV or AC M/F chassis. That all being said I am still happy with my viper and will ride it for a 4th year next season. Yes a 465 pound / 140 HP stock mountain sled (REV 800 or M7) has me absolutely drooling but I will wait for their used sled prices to drop before taking the plunge.
All you guys who are worried about the reliability of triple piped vipers I believe are being a little too conservative. I have heard of no reliability problems with SLP’s triple pipes (with other pipes but not SLP's) and I have well over 1000 hard mountain miles on my set up with not a single problem. The pipes were a relatively simple installation, fit and finish was excellent, power is comparable to well running 800’s, sled is very quiet (not as loud as old set up of stock pipe and MBRP can), pipes are very consistent (from –30 to 40 degrees, 0 to 6000’) without changing jets, and most importantly all I do is put gas and oil in the sled and ride without having to worry about being towed out.
Would I buy this sled again????? Yes, but I also wish I would have ridden my previous sled one more season and picked up a summit REV but hindsight is 20/20.
All you guys who are worried about the reliability of triple piped vipers I believe are being a little too conservative. I have heard of no reliability problems with SLP’s triple pipes (with other pipes but not SLP's) and I have well over 1000 hard mountain miles on my set up with not a single problem. The pipes were a relatively simple installation, fit and finish was excellent, power is comparable to well running 800’s, sled is very quiet (not as loud as old set up of stock pipe and MBRP can), pipes are very consistent (from –30 to 40 degrees, 0 to 6000’) without changing jets, and most importantly all I do is put gas and oil in the sled and ride without having to worry about being towed out.
Would I buy this sled again????? Yes, but I also wish I would have ridden my previous sled one more season and picked up a summit REV but hindsight is 20/20.
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03viperguy: The easiest way to get the clutching changed and learn how to do it at the same time, is to attend one of the TY rides and mention to one of us what you want to do. There are many gearheads that attend these rides, and most are happy to help out the not so mechanically inclined. Actually Mr. Sled just likes to get his hands dirty, but some of us actually enjoy working on somebody elses sled for a change.
acnas
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How much more does the rivet improve? Or what is the rpm with adding this rivet?yamaholic22 said:vipers actually have real good clutching stock, and its easy to improve on a little with a 4.5 gram rivet in the outter hole and around a 52/44 or 54/44 helix.
tbalz
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I also love my Viper. only 3500miles on it for 3 seasons hope to get a few hundred more this year. I will keep it till 10,000 or more. Only mods so far are C&A skis, some traction brackets, a few blue colored extras, and some scratches and dents from the damn tree magnet. I never bothered to clutch it or pipe it because it is just as fast as any clutched or piped Viper I have ever run against. I still have to original spark plugs in it. I am putting a monoshock suspension and a ripsaw track on this summer. One the new house is built the miles will rack up. The trail goes across my property.
snoman33x
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I really do want to pipe mine or maybe i should just change the can and lighten it up . im not sure but i would like a little better sound but not offensive.
SRX RIDER
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snoman33x said:I know the viper is old school by todays tech of the four strokers and all for Yamaha, but I just love mine to death. Riding here in SW Pa we dont get al ot of seat time but when i do get to im in heaven. Yesterday was the first time all year i was out all day and but about 75 miles onmy 02 viper. Im drooling over the new 06's but think ill jsut hang on to mine for a few more years.
I'm right with you on southern PA riding! I've been out three times thanks to the most lame winter in quite a while. Some of the conditions I've been riding in are almost too shameful to admit. Finally going to head up north on Saturday to get some "real" riding in and get the Viper back into it's element instead of the field/ditch hopping I've been doing around home.
As for the Viper: Still one of the smoothest, best handling, and hands down IMO best looking machines on the snow. Yeah, the skid sucks compared to the new stuff, and no it isn't a rocket in stock form, but it was/is a great all around trail sled that fits the needs of a lot of riders. The 06's surely are awesome, and I'll go 4 stroke in a few years, but the Viper will be kept around just in case I need a 2 stroke fix or a reminder of how much I enjoy this sled.
By the way, what part of PA are you from?