A few pictures from todays ride. Sad. Bad ice.

wow, Nice trailing Arm. How do you not See something like that beat up so bad!!? like your whole side of the sled *shock,Radious rod,ski* looks like its buckeled back! wouldn't you notice a slight steering problam
 

I'd bet he hit the hole his bil fell into. Good luck getting the MM running. Maxdlx
 
Dave_Vmax600 said:
if i were you i would pull the exhaust, carbs, airbox, plugs asap and start getting whatever water thats in the block out!

put the seat in a dry warm play as well!
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X2 tear in to her ASAP..
 
I put mine under the ice last winter, when we finaly got it out, the same night, i was soaking wet and my pants froze solid instantly because of the below zero temps, so my sled sat full of water on the ice overnight, because i couldnt handle the cold anymore (it was to the point were i couldnt feel my feet, and my legs were so cold they felt like they were on fire) so i said screw the sled until i got warm. next day we pulled it home, and the pipe, airbox, and whole inside of the motor was solid ice... I thawed it out as soon as i could, and used an air compressor to blow out as much water as possibe, checked the oil lines to make sure there was no water in it, then started it up and it has about 500 trouble free miles on it since then...
 
Hi! thanks for all the replies! :).

It may sound wierd that I didn`t notice the bent trailingarm before I was done with tanking her up, but I just didn`t.. . Oh yes the radius rods are heavily bent.

Last night when we rode down from the lake, my brother in law rode my sled and I was a passenger on my friends vector mountain (since I`m a smaller & lighter passenger). My brother in law said he hit a rock one time so that`s maybe when it got bent, hard to say. Those trailing arms are WEAK. But I guess it saved my frame from getting bent.
Anyway, damage done so how it happened doesn`t matter.

Wellwell I just came back from the garage, we put the fan owen directly onto the motor + held a heating gun onto the motor, a few minutes afterwards the engine turned freely. I heated it a little more to make sure there no ice bits. I then pulled the pipes and drained them. Then we pulled probably hundreds of times really fast (did remove the plugs yes) until little water seemed to come out. Then I sprayed huge amounts of WD40 into the sparkplug holes and turned the engine slowly. Did it several times. Then we pulled it faster to get some of the WD40 out. I then poured some oile into each cylinder and turned her over slowly, repeated several times. Then pulled her fast to get the excessive oil out.
Then I put a little gas in each cylinder and put the plugs back in. She fired on the first pull and run a few seconds on the third pull. But I guess the gas/water mixture in the carbs/tank stopped her from running. I poured some more gas in the cylinders but she only run a few seconds until the fresh gas was burned away.

I then sprayed large amounts of WD40 into the cylinders and pulled her over slowly, then I poured oil into her and turned her over slowly.

Guess I will have to pull the carbs and the fuel tank and get all the water out, then also drain the 2stroke oil and put fresh oil in. Bet she will run like a charm then.

But I wonder if I can let her sit in the trailer for a few days now with the heat on to get everything else dry and then trailer her home to my workshop in a few days and start working on her. ?.

Wellwell thanks again for all the replies:)

Oh forgot to mention that I did remove the seat and it`s now drying in our bathroom.

Wellwell goodnight :)
 
hoffam19 didn`t see your reply, probably wrote it while I was writing my previous thread. Guess we are damn lucky since we didn`t get wet, must have been scary to freeze so much that you suddenly don`t feel your feets!. Glad to hear that the sled still runs!:). Did you check the ice before you rode over the lake?.
 
kimoaj said:
hoffam19 didn`t see your reply, probably wrote it while I was writing my previous thread. Guess we are damn lucky since we didn`t get wet, must have been scary to freeze so much that you suddenly don`t feel your feets!. Glad to hear that the sled still runs!:). Did you check the ice before you rode over the lake?.
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yea, I dont realy want to experience cold like that again... and I was on a river when mine went down, I guess i was kind of asking for it, knowing the ice conditions were not very good at the time... you wouldnt believe how small your balls shrivel up when they hit that cold water... luckily, the water was only up to the top of the of the headlight, otherwise my sled would have been washed down stream under the ice from the current. the only thing keeping it from washing down stream was the windshield.... the whole hood was actualy being pushed under the ice... but its a yammy, it's still kick'n
 
great pics, but I still don't understand how he went in and everywhere else around the sled was safe? There are two big 4 stoke machines sitting side by side not even 15 feet away from that hole, not to mention the people all working around this hole.
 
Interesting read. I'm glad that no one got hurt and you were able to get the sled out. Like others already said, you want to get the water out of the crank case and get some oil in there. You could always use a 50/50 mix of fuel and oil, which would probably give more protection that WD40.
 
funny

you guys are the best, i have not laughed so hard in a while, you should make a movie about yourself! glad everyone is safe.
 
Pull the gas tank, gas lines, oil tank, oil lines, remove the chain case cover, remove the exhaust, remove the air box, remove the carbs...FLUSH AND CLEAN THEM ALL!

Now for the engine, dump oil in the exhaust, intake and spark plug holes. Turn it on its side and pull it over and make a mess. There is water in that motor and it needs out right away. (it will go after the bearings rather soon!)

Then put it all back together and run it. The seat will take awhile to dry out!

O ya, pull the trailing arms and control rods....get it on your sled right away! :rofl: Remember that dent you had in that trailing arm...guess were she buckled I bet!

As for the hole, that is very common for the ice to get slushy after the snow has been removed. I have seen that happen from time to time. And if you dont get it out within hours its iced back over like it never happen. #$%&*
 
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Hi guys! Thanks so much for all the replies! :).

crewchief47: thanks, I will take a look at the thread:)

vibeline: Yeah I told my brother in law to "update" his profession title to "Plummer and submarine captain" , hehe.

davevmax600: yeah I think most of the water is out already but I think I will work on the sled tomorrow, get it running and run it for a while. Either tomorrow or Friday, so tomorrow it is hehe:).

hoffam19: Gees I`m glad the current didn`t take the sled, must have been pretty dramatic. If I fell into that cold water I`m pretty sure I would have died before I even touched the water because I start hyper ventilating when I`m taking a bath in 20+ degrees water. And I`m almost not kidding.

Akriewins: I understand that you find it funny that the ice were so weak at that spot. I think the explenation is that there must be a river coming from land or something, that`s what the older guys thought atleast. The ice was 5cm thick, then there was 15cm with hardpacked snow. We drilled several holes in the ice the night before and we were sure it was safe. The next time we will drill more holes to get a better picture of the ice conditions.

Canuck: Yes, the last thing I did before I left the sled last night was to pour oil inside the cylinder while I slowly turned the engine, to make sure that it would enter the crankcase, but I guess I will have to get the engine running to get all the water out, so I hope to have it running tomorrow. I did get her running last night but only for a few seconds and that wount do any good.

rob jerico: Thanks, hehe:) Well I did shot some film when we rescued the sled but I didn`t film all that much since I wanted to help with the rescue. I`ll capture it and put it out on the net if you want.

viperking: Yes !

Familyman: I will do exactly what you said, hopefully I`ll get it done tomorrow, the only thing is that my garage doesn`t have a door so if it`s -10degrees outside then I`ll have to work in -10, I don`t care but I don`t know if it`s to early to bring the sled out in such temperatures?.

We`ve had a fan owen inside the trailer since last night and my boss said we would let the gas owen run as long as he was home, the gas owen really kicks ***.

One question, have any of you had trouble removing the screws that holds the plastic-shrouds around the tank (the on that the starting rope/lever goes into), from the gas tank?. When I try to screw the screws out, the nut or whatever it is on the inside, spins, so I can`t get the scew out. Guess it`s impossible to reach the nut on the inside, so I`ll have to drill the head off the bolt?. Gees I don`t want to mess up anything, I hate un-original fixes.

As for the trailingarms and radius rods, yeah it`s tempting hehe:). Are they the same btw?.

I got a 8ton hydraulic press for christmas, guess it will come in handy when I`m going to (try) to make a temporary repair of the trailingarm and radius rods. I`ll just straighten the trailing arm and reinforce it just a little to make sure it doesn`t break too easily, allthough I know that the trailingarm is suppost to break in an impact to avoid that the frame gets bent.

Will videotape when I stat the sled for the first time, will be a nice moment.
 
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